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re: Is it the unpopular opinion that Tunsil is a victim?

Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:25 am to
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:25 am to
You never responded to my scenario...
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:25 am to
So you're telling me he should have lost 8 million dollars because of a video that could have very well happened in his freshman year? Because SOMEONE ELSE put this info out there in an obvious attempt to attack him?

If it was underage drinking do you think it would have cost him this much?

Hell, if this video was reported when it actually happened, let's say his sophomore year, do you think it would have cost him 8mil?

No. It wouldn't have. It cost him because it was deliberately posted to his account minutes before the draft by someone other than him. That makes him a victim.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 11:26 am
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:25 am to
You are woefully obtuse, huh?

We're analzying Tunsil's thought process, and whether his actions make him a victim or not.

He knew the law when he allowed this recording. Whether the law was right or wrong had nothing to to with his understanding of it.

Let's have a discussion about legalizing weed, cool. But that's totally separate from whether Tunsil is a victim for allowing this recording.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:26 am to
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I understand what you are saying, but.....if you knowingly do things that will cost you money and damage your livelihood it is your own fault.


I didn't say he wasn't responsible for his actions, because of course he is, but the fact this was released anonymously and the person initiated aggression in a way that Tunsil has no means for defending himself, I'd say he's a victim. It was very calculated and malicious.

This new trend of social media is a terrible way to live life. We have very, very little control over information that is posted online about us.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 11:27 am
Posted by We_R_The_Tide
Athens, Alabama
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:26 am to
Tunsil was only doing what millions of other people are doing.......except that his smoking cost him 7 million dollars. Consequences can be a b!tch.........

Just like two drunk drivers can run off the road, one ends up in an open field, gathers himself, gets his car back on the road and drives home. The other hits a tree......and is dead.

Sometimes you escape the consequence, sometimes you don't. He didn't, and now he lost a lot of money, and will be watched from here on out.

As for the person who posted the video and text messages, my concern would be how much more did they find that they could use against him. May be why everyone is so quiet here, don't want to make a statement.......then have another video, picture or text conversation pop up that shows them not being totally honest. Because if you remember:

"In addition, it was determined that Tunsil was not completely forthcoming when initially questioned by NCAA investigators regarding the loaner vehicles. He later corrected his account and since apologized."
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 11:27 am
Posted by pivey14
In Your Head
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:26 am to
quote:

easily fakeable texts


It's already been clarified that the messages were Instagram direct messages not text messages.
Posted by SwayzeBalla
Member since Dec 2011
19469 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:27 am to
I feel for Tunsil. What was supposed to be the night of his life will now be a night he tries to forget. I have no idea how I would handle myself or what I would say in a presser after being put through a situation like that.


I don't think weed is deserving of that type of damage, BUT I'm a biased homer cheatin' bear so I guess I should frick off.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 11:28 am
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:28 am to
quote:

It's already been clarified that the messages were Instagram direct messages not text messages.


Because instagram messages can't be faked?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71183 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:28 am to
You're analyzing his thought process. Did you not read the OP?

And no one is saying he's a victim because he has a video of him smoking pot. The point that you're not missing, but avoiding, is that someone likely close to him used this video to deliberately hurt him. THAT is why some people feel he is a victim. We can all agree he shouldn't have filmed himself smoking pot.

And I'm the one who is obtuse. Get a grip, man. You come across like a sociopath with your inability to empathize.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 11:30 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
60230 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:29 am to
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Sadly, most people only really get perspective and empathy when it happens to their players from their own college. Until then it's zero tolerance.


It's not a matter of perspective. There is a speed limit. If you go faster than that speed limit and get caught, you are not a victim. You took a chance and you lost. You pay the price.

Don't get me wrong. I've been known to go a little over the speed limit, myself. We are all guilty. But if we are caught, we are not victims.

Now...is the guy (whoever it was) that posted the video and text messages on social media a nice guy? No. I wouldn't offer him a ride in my car if I thought I was going to speed. But Tunsil did what he is accused of doing. (Smoking the weed)
Posted by pivey14
In Your Head
Member since Mar 2012
15445 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Because instagram messages can't be faked?



It's much harder than text messages.

quote:

I could do it right now.


I'll wait.
Posted by cornhat
Member since Feb 2011
3393 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:30 am to
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And you make a valid point. But if somebody had told you they would give you 8 million dollars if you did not smoke weed or break some rules while you were in college would you say, "No thanks."?

Do you believe that there is no UGA football player who has been videotaped smoking weed? How would you feel if that player was sabotaged shortly before the draft?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
60230 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:31 am to
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released anonymously and the person initiated aggression in a way that Tunsil has no means for defending himself, I'd say he's a victim. It was very calculated and malicious.


I can agree with this part.

quote:

This new trend of social media is a terrible way to live life. We have very, very little control over information that is posted online about us.


You are correct. It has gotten to be a very dangerous world we live in.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71183 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:31 am to
Tunsil didn't get caught. He was exploited. There is a difference. A much greater difference.
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
97977 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:32 am to
quote:

It's much harder than text messages.


It's really not. It's fricking text. You take the direct message template from instagram and change the words. It's really not that difficult.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71183 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:33 am to
I prevented you with a scenario earlier and I'd appreciate it if you responded to it. I am genuinely curious. Try to be honest in your response too, please.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
101696 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:33 am to
When his personal accounts were compromised by someone he did not give consent to access said accounts, he became a victim. I don't care what was on it.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 11:34 am
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:34 am to
Who knows what he said in interviews to team's during the interview process?

maybe there was some misleading or untruthful answers?

You all who claim he is a victim and a NFL team passing on him is ridiculous. I don't even know what to say. It's obvious you all are emotional on his behalf, but it's a business decision and not them punishing him.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71183 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:35 am to
Exactly. A similar scenario could happen to any one of us on a smaller scale, and we would all feel cheated. It's pretty telling that no one has responded to my hypothetical scenario earlier.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7348 posts
Posted on 5/1/16 at 11:36 am to
Someone was obviously out to hurt him. And that person sucks. But it's a harm that Tunsil allowed. If he was smarter or cared more, this doesn't happen. Period.

I'm sorry, but when you know the spotlight is on you and that all you have to do is stay focused and discrete, then it's hard for me to see you as a victim when you do something this plainly stupid - even if the person who leaked the video is a malicious POS.
This post was edited on 5/1/16 at 11:37 am
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