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re: OT: GSB Primary/Political Stuff (Vote in bold)
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:27 am to Prettyboy Floyd
Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:27 am to Prettyboy Floyd
Damn, you are an angry person. It's not worth getting this mad about.
I'm not saying Trump has a low IQ but the man speaks in generalities and many of the things he is promising to do aren't feasible and have racist undertones. His entire campaign relies on ignorance and anger. The man is a megalomaniac and is more likely to cause national unrest than do anything positive.
I'd support Sanders by a process of elimination. He is the only politician (left in the race) who stands by what he believes in and seems to generally care about people. The character of the president is equally important to me as his policies. I don't support "free college / health care" because nothing in this world is free but I do think he could push to make the US a better place to live as it relates to workplace rights (PTO, maternity/paternity leave, etc.) and other basic rights we should have. Student loans shouldn't be forgiven but is it criminal that most of them start at 6.9% interest (while interest rates are at an all time low) despite the fact they are very low risk as they aren't dischargeable in bankruptcy. These are things I think he would fight for that most of the other candidates could give two shits about.
I'm not saying Trump has a low IQ but the man speaks in generalities and many of the things he is promising to do aren't feasible and have racist undertones. His entire campaign relies on ignorance and anger. The man is a megalomaniac and is more likely to cause national unrest than do anything positive.
I'd support Sanders by a process of elimination. He is the only politician (left in the race) who stands by what he believes in and seems to generally care about people. The character of the president is equally important to me as his policies. I don't support "free college / health care" because nothing in this world is free but I do think he could push to make the US a better place to live as it relates to workplace rights (PTO, maternity/paternity leave, etc.) and other basic rights we should have. Student loans shouldn't be forgiven but is it criminal that most of them start at 6.9% interest (while interest rates are at an all time low) despite the fact they are very low risk as they aren't dischargeable in bankruptcy. These are things I think he would fight for that most of the other candidates could give two shits about.
This post was edited on 2/25/16 at 9:43 am
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Posted on 2/25/16 at 9:49 am to Fats
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racist undertones.
Spare me the non-sense....This is some regurgitated media spin that can't come up with a logical argument against what Trump is saying so they call him a racist. It's bullshite
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Damn, you are an angry person. It's not worth getting this mad about.
I'm not angry at all
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Student loans shouldn't be forgiven but is it criminal that most of them start at 6.9% interest. These are things I think he would fight for that most of the other candidates could give two shits about.
The fact that you start the number at 6.9 is misleading and not factual. Now, could the numbers even at 4pct interest be considered high....maybe but at the same time there was a time where these things weren't capped at all and people were paying upwards of 20pct interest rates.
LINK
Direct Subsidized Loans
Undergraduate
4.29%
Direct Unsubsidized Loans
Undergraduate
4.29%
Direct Unsubsidized Loans
Graduate or Professional
5.84%
Direct PLUS Loans
Parents and Graduate or Professional Students
6.84%
Those are your current student loan rates set by congress. Now, I have no problem with thinking Bernie is probably an OK guy but his policies and the things he believes in are not OK and people are still willing to give him their vote knowing full well that his policies are problematic is worrisome. How do you fund the things he wants to do? The answer is....You tax....you tax anyone that can afford to pay a tax.
Here is a quote and I know no one will probably care but it's the best way to describe it...
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A country trying to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket trying to lift himself up by the handle.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 10:08 am to Fats
All of our political and socioeconomic problems are a direct result of the donor class corrupting establishment politicians and influencing national policy.
The ONLY guy that is hated by the "Establishment" is Cruz.
Trump is a donor class card carrying member with majority left leaning ideologies and a handful of super hot button right leaning ideologies that happen to be very pro-business/pro-capitalism/pro-middle class that he has latched on to so he can garner support. Trump would have run as a Democrat if Hillary wasn't his competition.
That said, building a wall between us and Mexico, repealing Obamacare, fixing our national debt and overspending problem, reducing the size and scope of federal government reach, strengthening our defense, getting back to a posture of strength in foreign policy, wiping out ISIS, and saying FU to moderate-fanatical Islam are actually things we do need.
If that's what Trump wants to do because he ran as a R instead of a D, then I'll take it. He's not my first choice, but if it's between him and Hillary or Sanders, I'll take his agenda over their leftist junk any day.
Hillary is Obama agenda 2.0, except with 10x more corruption and donor pocket lining behind it.
Sanders is simply a guy who was a leech on society until age 40, who grew up playing the victim blame game all his life, simply wanting to stick it to the rich and make life easier for those who live like he did growing up. A white-guilt crusader for victims of social injustice at the hands white privilege and those greedy capitalists. Damn the consequences to the economy and the future of this country.
Sanders would be like a eunuch in a whorehouse. Useless, ineffectual, incapable, inept, and out of his league. And worse of all, if any of his agenda did actually somehow get implemented, it would rocket our economy off the fiscal cliff at breakneck speed.
Rubio is okay, except for the fact he's a liar and would drown us in shite immigration policy and continue lining the pockets of the donor class. Why do you think the "Establishment" now loves him once Jeb bowed out?
Cruz is the only guy hated by everyone. It's too bad he's such a bible thumper and turning people off with his incessant God speak. He's easily got the best agenda in the entire bunch. But he's just not getting that across to people.
The ONLY guy that is hated by the "Establishment" is Cruz.
Trump is a donor class card carrying member with majority left leaning ideologies and a handful of super hot button right leaning ideologies that happen to be very pro-business/pro-capitalism/pro-middle class that he has latched on to so he can garner support. Trump would have run as a Democrat if Hillary wasn't his competition.
That said, building a wall between us and Mexico, repealing Obamacare, fixing our national debt and overspending problem, reducing the size and scope of federal government reach, strengthening our defense, getting back to a posture of strength in foreign policy, wiping out ISIS, and saying FU to moderate-fanatical Islam are actually things we do need.
If that's what Trump wants to do because he ran as a R instead of a D, then I'll take it. He's not my first choice, but if it's between him and Hillary or Sanders, I'll take his agenda over their leftist junk any day.
Hillary is Obama agenda 2.0, except with 10x more corruption and donor pocket lining behind it.
Sanders is simply a guy who was a leech on society until age 40, who grew up playing the victim blame game all his life, simply wanting to stick it to the rich and make life easier for those who live like he did growing up. A white-guilt crusader for victims of social injustice at the hands white privilege and those greedy capitalists. Damn the consequences to the economy and the future of this country.
Sanders would be like a eunuch in a whorehouse. Useless, ineffectual, incapable, inept, and out of his league. And worse of all, if any of his agenda did actually somehow get implemented, it would rocket our economy off the fiscal cliff at breakneck speed.
Rubio is okay, except for the fact he's a liar and would drown us in shite immigration policy and continue lining the pockets of the donor class. Why do you think the "Establishment" now loves him once Jeb bowed out?
Cruz is the only guy hated by everyone. It's too bad he's such a bible thumper and turning people off with his incessant God speak. He's easily got the best agenda in the entire bunch. But he's just not getting that across to people.
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