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What are the imits of human size and athleticism?
Posted on 12/12/15 at 6:55 am
Posted on 12/12/15 at 6:55 am
We've seen CFB players get bigger, stronger and faster from 1975 to now.
Is it possible that Ashawn Robinson will be dwarfed by the mutants playing in 2055?
I will be 91 that season so I may not be able to see the players then.
Are there models of what measurements the players of the future will possess.
Will DT be 7' tall and weigh 500 pounds?
Will the be a sub 4 second forty (other than hand held by coaches)?
Will they have to widen the field eventually?
Is it possible that Ashawn Robinson will be dwarfed by the mutants playing in 2055?
I will be 91 that season so I may not be able to see the players then.
Are there models of what measurements the players of the future will possess.
Will DT be 7' tall and weigh 500 pounds?
Will the be a sub 4 second forty (other than hand held by coaches)?
Will they have to widen the field eventually?
Posted on 12/12/15 at 6:57 am to makersmark1
Humans, without interference, have probably met the limit although, I'm sure, this has been stated before.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 6:58 am to makersmark1
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1) The first of these is the type of event. In sprint events - where physiological factors are the main determinant of performance - it’s possible we’ll one day reach a ceiling of human performance.
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2) The answer also involves technology and the limits that are placed on technological advancements. In sports that rely heavily on technology – such as swimming and cycling - a ceiling might not be reached if limits are not placed on the magnitude of performance enhancement that new technology can bring.
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3) A third variable involves doping and other illegal performance-enhancing practices. The success of the fight against doping depends on scientists' ability to come up with tests to detect doping.
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4) Finally there are athletes, such as Usain Bolt, who have a physique and running technique we have never seen before, and all of the ceilings that we put on normal physical ability are simply thrown out the window.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 6:59 am to makersmark1
These guys dont look that big?
Posted on 12/12/15 at 7:02 am to makersmark1
It will be played by self-aware robots.
Also, the limits of human size for coaches is already being tested by Bert.
Also, the limits of human size for coaches is already being tested by Bert.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 7:05 am to dbeck
quote:This Is true. That guy is FATTTTT.
Also, the limits of human size for coaches is already being tested by Bert.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 7:18 am to PepaSpray
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That guy is FATTTTT.
And saban.is the other extreme. That guy is SMALLLLL
Posted on 12/12/15 at 7:31 am to ThatMakesSense
It's not gay to rub one's nuts across another's forehead. It's predestination.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 7:33 am to PepaSpray
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predestination.
Because homosexuals are ultimately destined for salvation.
I see your point.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 7:57 am to TxTiger82
David Epstein has a TED talk that addresses some of this and is very interesting.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 7:58 am to makersmark1
Baylor's TE is 410lbs.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 8:25 am to makersmark1
Thirty years ago coaches would have never envisioned a 6'3 320 pound human being playing football with the athleticism that we see today. I think it's foolish to say we've reached capacity. Nutrition and exercise science will only continue to progress. Further, we are growing taller with each generation.
Just look at some of the freak athletes in the NBA. Could Lebron James play in the NFL? Could a 6'9 guy that weighs 275 pounds, is strong, is fast, is agile - could that guy be a defensive end?
Would people from the 1960s have ever thought a 6'5 250 person would be a quarterback?
I can see speed being limited. Maybe overall strength. But height and weight can be controlled and developed through nutrition and exercise.
It won't surprise me at all if in 50 years, I'm an old man watching 6'11 290 pound tight ends catch passes as they sprint down the field.
Just look at some of the freak athletes in the NBA. Could Lebron James play in the NFL? Could a 6'9 guy that weighs 275 pounds, is strong, is fast, is agile - could that guy be a defensive end?
Would people from the 1960s have ever thought a 6'5 250 person would be a quarterback?
I can see speed being limited. Maybe overall strength. But height and weight can be controlled and developed through nutrition and exercise.
It won't surprise me at all if in 50 years, I'm an old man watching 6'11 290 pound tight ends catch passes as they sprint down the field.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 8:30 am to makersmark1
Nah, technology will be to the point that we barely have to move ourselves, fat and pale will become attractive again and human genetics will regress physically. Americas past time will be Battle Bots. Eventually we will evolve past the point of needing muscles or even bodies at all until all we are is just super intelligent floating consciousness that can manipulate matter.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 8:49 am to StringedInstruments
There is a limit to how big/fast/quick/strong someone can be. Muscle strength is governed by the cross section of a muscle. Essentially the surface area of a circle (pi*r^2). But to increase this you must gain muscle volume. Volume of a sphere is pi*r^3.
This is simplified of course but to square the surface area (strength) you must cube the volume (muscle mass). This means that the bigger muscles get the less efficient they are in strength to weight ratio. And stronger muscles need bigger, stronger bones to support the load of forces. Which makes the person heavier.
(This is why ants can lift 50x their body weight with spindly little legs and tiny muscles. They have extremely efficient muscles)
And the ability to accelerate is governed by inertia. The more mass, the more inertia. You need bigger muscles to give more leverage to accelerate but at some point those muscles start having diminishing returns and just slow you down.
This is simplified of course but to square the surface area (strength) you must cube the volume (muscle mass). This means that the bigger muscles get the less efficient they are in strength to weight ratio. And stronger muscles need bigger, stronger bones to support the load of forces. Which makes the person heavier.
(This is why ants can lift 50x their body weight with spindly little legs and tiny muscles. They have extremely efficient muscles)
And the ability to accelerate is governed by inertia. The more mass, the more inertia. You need bigger muscles to give more leverage to accelerate but at some point those muscles start having diminishing returns and just slow you down.
Posted on 12/12/15 at 8:59 am to BowlJackson
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Nah, technology will be to the point that we barely have to move ourselves, fat and pale will become attractive again and human genetics will regress physically.
Already on the course to this…
Posted on 12/12/15 at 9:07 am to Cheese Grits
Exactly! All the rich athletes leave practice and go home and ride hover boards around their houses, while most normal people don't even want to put down their phone and get off the couch. The plus side though is that while our bodies physically regress over the coming generations without the need for it, mentally we will continue to evolve.
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