If you're saying "elite = 1st rd pick = a tall, white QB with an above average arm", I agree.

But he doesn't appear to be an elite college QB. He consistently underthrows the deep ball, his scrambling abilities are subpar, he can't make the right read on a zone read (an integral part of CFB) and he has an extremely slow release (which kills the quick game).

I'm not sure he reads defenses that well, as he's thrown a bunch of bad INTs. Apparently he's been given freedom to change plays, which has had bad consequences.

I would have loved for him to stick around for the new OC, though. He deserve better than Spav, but he apparently liked Spav, so whatever.

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Posted by PhilipMarlowe

Member since Mar 2013

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Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:53 pm to NanosTacoRun

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If you're saying "elite = 1st rd pick = a tall, white QB with an above average arm", I agree. But he doesn't appear to be an elite college QB. He consistently underthrows the deep ball, his scrambling abilities are subpar, he can't make the right read on a zone read (an integral part of CFB) and he has an extremely slow release (which kills the quick game). I'm not sure he reads defenses that well, as he's thrown a bunch of bad INTs. Apparently he's been given freedom to change plays, which has had bad consequences. I would have loved for him to stick around for the new OC, though. He deserve better than Spav, but he apparently liked Spav, so whatever.

Toss in that he folds under pressure and you've nailed my thoughts exactly. I see nothing "elite" in him, I have no doubt that he can be better than the shite show we witnessed this year, but I've seen nothing from him that tells me he's elite. Now maybe that was all offensive scheme and sumlin/Spav woefully let him down, we shall see when he plays for a new coach and new school.

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Posted by WestCoastAg

Member since Oct 2012

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Posted on 12/10/15 at 11:00 pm to NanosTacoRun

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n above average arm"

his arm is better than just above average. look at his touchdown throw to josh in the nevada game. 30 yard laser from the opposite hash

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He consistently underthrows the deep ball

no. consistently underthrowing the deep ball is what kenny did. kyle does not do this consistently

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as he's thrown a bunch of bad INTs.

he throw interceptions against ole miss and bama this year. you know, the games he was hurt in

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his scrambling abilities are subpar, he can't make the right read on a zone read

that was never his game to begin with. we can argue all we want about how he continually failed to figure out how to successfully run the read option, but ill just bringing back that it was stupid to keep forcing him to do so. just like forcing carson to run outside of the tackles