re: it looks like Heisman is a one game award and not a season award

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This thread took a shittastic turn somewhere along the way. The bottom line is if Fournette doesn't disappear the rest of the year and puts up 150+yds per game and LSU is siting at 10-1 he will win the Heisman. It's pretty much that simple.

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This is dead on accurate in my opinion and it will be deserved

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He had 5 games under 100 yards rushing. That is damn near half the season

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91
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30

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Again, he was best in the games where Alabama needed him to be to win. You put these 5 games out there, but let's add a little context:

56 - that was against Florida International. Alabama won easily and Ingram ran the ball 10 times scored a TD and shut it down (he also caught 4 passes for 47 yards in that game by the way). Heisman voters don't care about these kinds of games.

91 - that was against N. Texas. Alabama dominated and Ingram ran the ball 8 times scored a TD and shut it down (he also caught 3 balls for 38 yards and another TD in that game by the way). Heisman voters don't care about these kinds of games.

50 - that was against Arkansas. Alabama dominated and Ingram ran the ball 17 times and scored a TD (and caught 3 for 21 and another TD). Alabama won by like 30.

99 - that was against UT. 18 rushes for 99 yards, 5.5 average. Not a great game, but not a stinker, and Alabama did escape with a victory.

30 - this was the Auburn game. As discussed, this probably would have cost him the Heisman had he not gone for 113 rushing and 3 TDs and 76 receiving against Florida the next week.

He showed up big in other games and put together about 2000 yards rushing and receiving on an undefeated NC team.

Again, in most years his performance would not win it, but 2009 was a pretty weak year for candidates and he had as good a case as any. Gerhart had more rushing yards but the total yards were about even, and people rightfully discounted his performances against PAC 12 defenses that year. Plus his team lost 4 in the regular season and he went for less than 100 in two of those. Bad performances in losses are remembered more than bad performances in wins.

Some guy mentioned Suh. He was a monster but let's face it, pure defensive guys don't win the Heisman.

There is some context for you.

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I agree with everything you posted except this. According to the majority of books, LF still has the greatest chance. I think this Saturday is huge. If LF has 150+ against a great arky run D, the trophy will be his. If he gets contained for under 100, I think Henry becomes the clear favorite

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If Henry has some huge games vs MSU, AU, and especially UF (and if Bama wins all 3) I think Henry definitely has a chance even if LF does really well. However there's still Watson. Clemson will most likely win out. If Watson does really well in those games he could win it especially for 3 reasons:
1-He's a QB, the award seems to favor them
2-His team is the no.1 team in nation.
3-Like Henry he plays an extra week in which LF doesn't.
In 2009 and 2012 the Heisman winner didn't win the other awards, the runner-up did. I could see that happening this year with LF not winning the Heisman but still winning the others.

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In 2009 and 2012 the Heisman winner didn't win the other awards, the runner-up did. I could see that happening this year with LF not winning the Heisman but still winning the others.

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it's always funny when a RB is awarded the heisman over the player who is winning the award for the best running back

it's a hype-train type thing.

Yes, if you blow it in the biggest game of the year you are likely out of the Heisman race. What did LF7 do when the spotlight was on him in the biggest game of the year on primetime TV? He blew it.

Edit: He was completely dominated, "blew it" may be a little harsh because I definitely think Bama's line is world-class and could stop a damn freight train. Had LF7 run for 100+ and 2 scores then it would have cemented him as the Heisman winner IMO barring any injuries. But they made him look like I-Have-Cable-Trent-Richardson and that just doesn't help your Heisman chances.

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it was a legacy defining game. the biggest game of his life and he no showed. sad.

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Wrong!! He showed up unfortunately our offensive line didn't show up and Bama's defensive front sure in the hell did!! Again for those bashing Fournette, 19 carries, hit 13 times at or behind the line of scrimmage!

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This thread took a shittastic turn somewhere along the way. The bottom line is if Fournette doesn't disappear the rest of the year and puts up 150+yds per game and LSU is siting at 10-1 he will win the Heisman. It's pretty much that simple.

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Agree!

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The soft defense part may be correct but I still dont think our offensive line is good, much less great.

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Our rush defense is very good, but Chicken is right in the sense that our defense was very thin and tired by the end of the game. 120 of Henry's 210 yards came in the second half. Save for that one 40-yard run Henry broke off in the first half, they did a good job of limiting him going into the half. Seeing as how Cam Robinson received the second highest grade in the game and that he showed no signs of injury at all like previous games, suffice to say that OL was not a problem for yall like it's been in previous games. When they are throwing Arden Key out there, it's tough for a guy like him to get any stops. Credit Bama for keeping LSU's offense off the field, taking advantage of some untimely penalties, and executing Les Miles' fundamental gameplan far more effectively than he could ever dream of doing against Bama. With the way things transpired, it was kind of 1/9 Lite

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Swap LF7 and Henry.. Henry running behind LSUs OL against the Bama DL probably gets shut out worse than LF7 did. Put LF7 behind the Bama OL vs the LSU DL and he's probably still running. There were several big runs Henry had the LF7 would have taken all the way.

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I was speaking generally more so than about last Saturday's game.