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Auburn fans. I will admit that it WAS Targeting.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:01 pm
Here's the video:
TAMU v AU -- Targeting Video -- Scroll down
Here is the Rule:
Notes to Articles 9-1-3 and 9-1-4
Note 1: “Targeting” means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes
of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a
legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are
not limited to:
• Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward
and forward thrust of the body to make contact in the head or neck area
• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with
contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on
the ground
• Leading with helmet, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with contact
at the head or neck area
• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating contact with the crown
of the helmet
Note 2: Defenseless player (Rule 2-27-14):
• A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass.
• A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a
backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time
to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
• A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the
return.
• A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who has
completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect himself or
has not clearly become a ball carrier..
• A player on the ground.
• A player obviously out of the play.
• A player who receives a blind-side block.
• A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward
progress has been stopped.
• A quarterback any time after a change of possession
If you will watch the video, you will see AU #24 launch at #1 lead with the crown of his head. #24 ultimately hits #1 with his shoulder (@ 0;11) when player #1 was clearly attempting to slide and already on the ground, which resulted in an injury to #1. Player #24 should have been ejected for targeting by launching at #1 with the crown of his head for the sole purpose of attacking player #1 as player #1 was clearly attempting to end the play and was already on the ground.
The refs made a mistake and should be suspended.
Anyway, good luck the rest of the way.
TAMU v AU -- Targeting Video -- Scroll down
Here is the Rule:
Notes to Articles 9-1-3 and 9-1-4
Note 1: “Targeting” means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes
of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a
legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are
not limited to:
• Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward
and forward thrust of the body to make contact in the head or neck area
• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with
contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on
the ground
• Leading with helmet, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with contact
at the head or neck area
• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating contact with the crown
of the helmet
Note 2: Defenseless player (Rule 2-27-14):
• A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass.
• A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a
backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time
to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier.
• A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the
return.
• A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who has
completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect himself or
has not clearly become a ball carrier..
• A player on the ground.
• A player obviously out of the play.
• A player who receives a blind-side block.
• A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward
progress has been stopped.
• A quarterback any time after a change of possession
If you will watch the video, you will see AU #24 launch at #1 lead with the crown of his head. #24 ultimately hits #1 with his shoulder (@ 0;11) when player #1 was clearly attempting to slide and already on the ground, which resulted in an injury to #1. Player #24 should have been ejected for targeting by launching at #1 with the crown of his head for the sole purpose of attacking player #1 as player #1 was clearly attempting to end the play and was already on the ground.
The refs made a mistake and should be suspended.
Anyway, good luck the rest of the way.
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:02 pm to KaiserSoze99
Auburn is thug u
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:03 pm to KaiserSoze99
how did they not call that targeting...
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:03 pm to Old Sarge
I can't take you idiots seriously with those avi's 
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:03 pm to KaiserSoze99
The ref was an ex bama, retired from officiating and then brought back by Shaw to be influential in games.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:04 pm to KaiserSoze99
I guarantee the aggot originally flagged would have been thrown out had the auburn player not made that hit.
they prolly said if that isn't targeting, then this isnt targeting
I don't have a problem with the no call. I would prefer the rule be totally done away with so there's no more confusion or room for subjective error.
but, factually, they were both targeting by letter of the rule and should have both been flagged.
they prolly said if that isn't targeting, then this isnt targeting
I don't have a problem with the no call. I would prefer the rule be totally done away with so there's no more confusion or room for subjective error.
but, factually, they were both targeting by letter of the rule and should have both been flagged.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:04 pm to lsuWRK
I know, right? #1 was clearly on the ground. #24 made helmet-to-helmet contact with #1 and led with the crown of his head, or at least hit #1's head with his shoulder.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:05 pm to KaiserSoze99
quote:
Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward
and forward thrust of the body to make contact in the head or neck area
This is the part that everyone misses.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:07 pm to rmnldr
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:08 pm to Tiguar
quote:
I guarantee the aggot originally flagged would have been thrown out had the auburn player not made that hit.
they prolly said if that isn't targeting, then this isnt targeting
I don't have a problem with the no call. I would prefer the rule be totally done away with so there's no more confusion or room for subjective error.
but, factually, they were both targeting by letter of the rule and should have both been flagged.
This. You're right. Had the replay official not had a front-row seat to the helmet-to-helmet on #1, the other would have been upheld.
Stupid, subjective rule is stupid and too subjective. Way too much discretion which will ultimately result in abuse.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:12 pm to KaiserSoze99
the problem I have with that hit it that it doesn't need to be that violent to take the guy out of the play. You could take an unsuspecting player like that out of the play with two hands to the shoulder pads. Whether it was targeting or not it is a cheap shot in my opinion.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:14 pm to KaiserSoze99
Honestly, I'm glad it wasn't called. You guys would have blamed it for your loss like the horse collar tackle that some of you are having trouble letting go still.
Just a fair and square win
Just a fair and square win
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:15 pm to TheJones
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ou guys would have blamed it for your loss like the horse collar tackle that some of you are having trouble letting go still.
Solid point.
Follow up, is this the end of the horse collar?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:16 pm to KaiserSoze99
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• Launch—a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward
and forward thrust of the body to make contact in the head or neck area
Good thing his foot is still on the ground at contact with murray
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:20 pm to BamaScoop
quote:
the problem I have with that hit it that it doesn't need to be that violent to take the guy out of the play. You could take an unsuspecting player like that out of the play with two hands to the shoulder pads. Whether it was targeting or not it is a cheap shot in my opinion.
I agree. Kyler was clearly down. You don't even have to touch him. The play was over. #24 for Auburn should have been ejected. It was a cheap shot at best.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:23 pm to NYCAuburn
quote:
Good thing his foot is still on the ground at contact with murray
I disagree, but even if you are correct, you also forgot this one:
quote:
• A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with
contact at the head or neck area even though one or both feet are still on
the ground
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:25 pm to KaiserSoze99
Well instead of being ejected himself, he hurt his own teammate and caused him to be taken out of the game. Dirty.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:25 pm to BamaScoop
quote:
the problem I have with that hit it that it doesn't need to be that violent to take the guy out of the play. You could take an unsuspecting player like that out of the play with two hands to the shoulder pads. Whether it was targeting or not it is a cheap shot in my opinion.
Seriously? So now we want football players to use the least amount of force possible to get the job done? You've got to be kidding.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:27 pm to KaiserSoze99
That was a bang bang play. He was going low, for the tackle, trying to keep him out of the end zone. Your QB slid after the defender had already made his move. RSJ went high on purpose.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 11/10/15 at 4:29 pm to WRTC
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Well instead of being ejected himself, he hurt his own teammate and caused him to be taken out of the game. Dirty.
That happens more often than not. A player, clearly trying to be dirty and trying to cause injury to an opposing player (usually a ball carrier), ends up hitting his own teammate who was already engaged by another blocker in a legal, clean block. That's what caused his foot to get caught, not the legal, clean, respectable, and innocent block.
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