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Comparing Nolan's and Mike's records
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:05 pm
Nolan
1985-86: 12-16 -- 4-12
1986-87: 19-14 -- 8-8
1987-88: 21-9 -- 11-5
1988-89: 25-7 -- 13-3
123 games played -- 77 wins -- .626 winning percentage
Mike
2011-12: 18-14 -- 6-10
2012-13: 19-13 -- 10-8
2013-14: 22-12 -- 10-8
2014-15: 27-9 -- 13-5
134 games -- 86 wins -- .642 winning percentage
People not satisfied with Mike's record would have been upset with Nolan's.
1985-86: 12-16 -- 4-12
1986-87: 19-14 -- 8-8
1987-88: 21-9 -- 11-5
1988-89: 25-7 -- 13-3
123 games played -- 77 wins -- .626 winning percentage
Mike
2011-12: 18-14 -- 6-10
2012-13: 19-13 -- 10-8
2013-14: 22-12 -- 10-8
2014-15: 27-9 -- 13-5
134 games -- 86 wins -- .642 winning percentage
People not satisfied with Mike's record would have been upset with Nolan's.
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Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:06 pm to hawgfaninc
How dare you present valid stats showing our current coach isn't doing a terrible job.
Shame.
The Flagship is not impressed.
Shame.
The Flagship is not impressed.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:12 pm to hawgfaninc
Nolan won the conference in his 4th year and went to the Final 4 in year 5, also already had 2 appearances in the Big dance at the end of his 4th season and a NIT appearance. Nolan had a tougher road rebuilding than Mike Anderson had.
Mike has his team going for the final 4 in year 5, but it could be final 4 worst teams of 2016
Mike has his team going for the final 4 in year 5, but it could be final 4 worst teams of 2016
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:23 pm to Pigfeet
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Nolan won the conference in his 4th year and went to the Final 4 in year 5
The Mike defenders want to use this criteria. They hand picked it. So anything short of Nolan's success in Year 4/5 will be Mike's failure per Mike apologists
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:39 pm to Porker Face
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The Mike defenders want to use this criteria
and it always goes like this
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 11:11 am
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:55 pm to Porker Face
never mind- not worthy.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 3:58 pm to Pigfeet
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Nolan won the conference in his 4th year
Only interested in wins and losses.
Not comparing Kentucky and the Texas team Nolan beat to win the SWC. That comparison can't be quantified like the data in the OP.
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and went to the Final 4 in year 5,
that's nice, but the OP only deals with four years
Posted on 11/4/15 at 4:21 pm to hawgfaninc
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Only interested in wins and losses.
Ok, here are Nolan's W/L in year 4:
25–7, 13-3
Anyone willing to bet we win 73% of our games?
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 5:11 pm to hawgfaninc
I'm satisfied with Mike up to this point. I am disappointed we look poised to suck for the foreseeable future.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 5:30 pm to hawgfaninc
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that's nice, but the OP only deals with four years
convenient
So Nolan went to the Big Dance the same amount of times as Stan Heath and but both more than Mike in their first 4 years
Posted on 11/4/15 at 5:35 pm to Pigfeet
I hope that camera was on a tripod
Posted on 11/4/15 at 5:40 pm to Pigfeet
This will be year five for Mike.
In year five, Nolan took us to the Final Four.
Based on the OP's point, Mike is just as good a coach as Nolan and is on the same win trajectory, actually slightly better.
And since we're a bunch of Arkansas dumb asses that are only capable of looking at historical win/loss records in order to project how we think our team will fare this year, I got on the phone and got my final four tickets ordered today.
What is so awesome about it, based on Mike's slightly better win/loss record to Nolan's first four years, we should advance even further in the tournament that Nolan did in year five.
WE MAKE THE FINALS!!!!!!!!!! WOW
In year five, Nolan took us to the Final Four.
Based on the OP's point, Mike is just as good a coach as Nolan and is on the same win trajectory, actually slightly better.
And since we're a bunch of Arkansas dumb asses that are only capable of looking at historical win/loss records in order to project how we think our team will fare this year, I got on the phone and got my final four tickets ordered today.
What is so awesome about it, based on Mike's slightly better win/loss record to Nolan's first four years, we should advance even further in the tournament that Nolan did in year five.
WE MAKE THE FINALS!!!!!!!!!! WOW
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 5:53 pm to PygmalionEffect
The only elite Arkansas coaches in modern history are Nolan and Eddie. The rest are second tier including Mike at this point.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 5:56 pm to dbeck
quote:That's one HELL of a dedicated soldier if not.
I hope that camera was on a tripod
Posted on 11/4/15 at 6:02 pm to hawgfaninc
I am young, so I don't know for sure. But in that Arkansas basketball piece about Nolan a few years back didn't Nolan or the narrator say people were getting impatient with him right before he took off?
Posted on 11/4/15 at 6:04 pm to PygmalionEffect
The other thing that gets lost in the comparison between the Mike and Nolan comparison, is the fact that in Nolan's era, coaches had to build a program that could win against other programs that had 4 year players. That alone debunks this comparison.
The elite basketball programs lose their top players after one year and have to reload each year, Mike has a far better chance at winning early than Nolan did.
Nolan went up against teams like UNLV, Duke, Arizona, UCLA, NC, and other teams that may have 5 NBA players on it. Mike's team may only face one of those teams each year (Kentucky).
No offense to OP and I appreciate the discussion, but the comparison is trash.
The elite basketball programs lose their top players after one year and have to reload each year, Mike has a far better chance at winning early than Nolan did.
Nolan went up against teams like UNLV, Duke, Arizona, UCLA, NC, and other teams that may have 5 NBA players on it. Mike's team may only face one of those teams each year (Kentucky).
No offense to OP and I appreciate the discussion, but the comparison is trash.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 6:06 pm to LittleRockHog501
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But in that Arkansas basketball piece about Nolan a few years back didn't Nolan or the narrator say people were getting impatient with him right before he took off?
To paraphrase Nolan "Once you build the monster, you have to feed the monster" and he had one tall order.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:26 pm to LittleRockHog501
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I am young, so I don't know for sure. But in that Arkansas basketball piece about Nolan a few years back didn't Nolan or the narrator say people were getting impatient with him right before he took off?
Yes, but the impatience was centered more around philosophy not results.
The same people were satisfied with Sutton, even if he was handing out scholarships based on coke connections, even with the decline the program was under with him.
Why? Because he played the game how they thought it should be played, not the ratball Nolan brought.
Same reason why some will never accept CBB or any coach similar to him, because his offense doesn't fit how they envision the game should be played.
Same reason why these same fans accept DVH's mediocrity and make excuses for him and his staff taking years off in recruiting.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:33 pm to DaleDenton
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Yes, but the impatience was centered more around philosophy not results.
Simply false.
His demise was the fact that fans expected to win and couldn't accept that he had settled into riding his job based on what he had already accomplished. he got lazy in recruiting and his arse got fired.
If you work for me and you made me a lot of money one year and think you are going to sit on your arse and expect to be safe, you'll get Nolan'd yourself. Too much talent out there for one to rest on his past achievements.
Posted on 11/4/15 at 7:34 pm to Pigfeet
BTW, I agree that DVh is doing the same damn thing.
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