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re: John Boehner to resign from Congress.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:01 pm to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:01 pm to BluegrassBelle
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IMO part of the problem with government is you have a bunch of extremists on both sides representing what is largely a moderate public as a whole.
That's what they want you to believe, but the "moderate" that is sold to the masses is well-left of center.
Before the second debate, CNN had a short program on about Reagan. I didn't get to listen to it, but I watched it. In nearly every photo of Reagan, there was a picture of Tip O'Neill. I'm sure they were trotting out that old tripe about how well Reagan and O'Neill worked together and that those were the good old days when every body got along.
That's a crock of shite. There were 7 government shutdowns while those two were battling it out. Maybe after hours they were friendly, but they were far from it in Congressional battles. Sausage-making is ugly, and there is no way to get around it except capitulation, which is exactly what the Congressional Republicans have been doing.
Remember what the Senate Democrats did to Bush's judicial appointments throughout both terms of his presidency? Sheer, unadulterated obstructionism. Just think if the Republicans had tried that. You would have thought that the sky was falling.
Remember the last 2 years that Bush was in office and the Democrats had both houses of Congress? Democrats set a record for cloture votes. The Democrats would have howled to high heaven had Republicans tried that.
Democrats want everyone to work together when it suits them, and accuse the Republicans of obstructionism and uber-conservatism when they don't, and the Democrats have the media in their back pocket to assist.
/off soap box
*For the record, I think both parties are culpable for the shite state of affairs of our country.
This post was edited on 9/25/15 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:04 pm to DownSouthJukin
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the "moderate" that is sold to the masses is well-left of center
Absolute truth. Boehner, in 1995 would have been a Democrat with his policies. There has been a shift to the left in great magnitude over the last 25 yrs.
Everyone that gets labeled "extremist" today, was simply a Conservative back then. Clinton, as much as I despised him and his policies, would be more in line with the establishment R's of today.
Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:07 pm to DownSouthJukin
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*For the record, I think both parties are culpable for the shite state of affairs of our country.
I never said they weren't. There's plenty of blame to spread around. And I've chosen to abstain from elections over the last few years largely due to not wanting to pick the lesser of two evils (and I'm not talking about just for Presidential elections). Which is why I noted extremists on both sides.
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Democrats want everyone to work together when it suits them, and accuse the Republicans of obstructionism and uber-conservatism when they don't, and the Democrats have the media in their back pocket to assist.
There are maybe a handful of any of that bunch on the Hill right now that is willing to work together. From the top to the bottom.
This post was edited on 9/25/15 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 9/25/15 at 12:23 pm to DownSouthJukin
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Remember what the Senate Democrats did to Bush's judicial appointments throughout both terms of his presidency? Sheer, unadulterated obstructionism. Just think if the Republicans had tried that. You would have thought that the sky was falling.
You mean like they are doing right now?
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