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Posted on 1/18/16 at 5:51 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 1/18/16 at 5:51 pm to Roger Klarvin
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The biggest problem with conservatives as a whole is the insistence on their brand of moral legislation
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However, the dangers of liberal politicians will remain because they pander to an ever expanding group of voters who believe limiting freedom is justified in the name of equality and tolerance.
I feel like those are highly conflicting statements that don't coexist. The left is pushing their morals that do limit free speech in the name of intolerance and equality.
Now I'm taking that from my Christian perspective, and I know that's not how you roll.
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Posted on 1/18/16 at 6:18 pm to 3nOut
No you are right, liberals want to legislate what everyone should believe and how everyone should act way more than conservatives these days. 
Posted on 1/18/16 at 6:32 pm to Iosh
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Cruz is very, very genuine in his religious beliefs and he's not going to change.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 6:33 pm to townestoldme2
Posted on 1/18/16 at 6:51 pm to Old Sarge
I am so NOT interested in ANY of these candidates on EITHER side. None of these frickers are out to do good. They only want to inflate their egos and frick us over in the process.
Vote NO OF THE ABOVE!!!.
Vote NO OF THE ABOVE!!!.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 7:07 pm to Old Sarge
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No you are right, liberals want to legislate what everyone should believe and how everyone should act way more than conservatives these days.
Common man! They're both equally bad. Both ideologies want us to live a life that they deem as socially acceptable. What those social standards are depends on whether you're socially liberal or conservative. My main issue with these social issues is that both parties should stop taking stances and let their members hold their own opinion instead of standing united. For example, Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee should have never gone in the defense of Kim Davis. It just created a stigma that all republicans should oppose Gay marriage on the count that it interferes with religious freedom. Ninja please! The circumstances of her job changed. Find another job that aligns with your beliefs. Instead they dragged this embarrassment out and beat it to death in the national spotlight.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 7:08 pm to KaiserSoze99
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I am so NOT interested in ANY of these candidates on EITHER side. None of these frickers are out to do good. They only want to inflate their egos and frick us over in the process.
Vote NO OF THE ABOVE!!!.
At this point in the election, it has come to picking who will be the least sleazy of them all. My gripe here is not really to fight democrat vs Republican or conservative vs liberal. I'm just here to gripe that in the best country in the world, the best we could cough up for presidency are these clowns.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 7:14 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:Sweeping limitations such as what? SCOTUS has only very recently found an individual right in the 2nd amendment at all, and has so far only been willing to overturn the most drastic of total bans, so your bulwark against, I dunno, increased background checks or dumb assault weapons bans is state governments and Congress, not SCOTUS
I fear sweeping limitations on the first and second amendments are not far away with a liberal SCOTUS.
With the first amendment I could see a reversal of Citizens United, which is not ideal, but also something less than "sweeping" seeing as you're looking at maybe restoring the FECA regulations that existed from 1971-2010 (I say "maybe" because this assumes Congress will reinstate them)
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 1/18/16 at 7:53 pm to greenbastard
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For example, Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee should have never gone in the defense of Kim Davis. It just created a stigma that all republicans should oppose Gay marriage on the count that it interferes with religious freedom.
Just as a fact check, I don't think Cruz openly opposed of gay marriage. He supported her desire to oppose gay marriage. There's a difference.
For instance. I think it's stupid to turn down money for gay wedding stuff that gets in the news. I would take their business in a heartbeat.
But I sure as hell support the people that don't and want to use their first amendment rights to say no.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:21 pm to 3nOut
quote:Cruz has openly and consistently opposed gay marriage since his first election.
Just as a fact check, I don't think Cruz openly opposed of gay marriage.
Hell he slammed Leppert in the primaries just for showing up at a pride parade. On the one hand it's discouraging that people's memories are that short. On the other hand I guess it says something about how quickly the debate has shifted that conservatives now feel the need to bury their opposition.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:45 pm to Iosh
I meant that after the SCOTUS ruling he said he'll respect the law of the land. I believe he and Rubio both took the stance of we don't like it, but it's the law.
Not that Huckabee full right wing crap.
Not that Huckabee full right wing crap.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:52 pm to KaiserSoze99
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I am so NOT interested in ANY of these candidates on EITHER side. None of these frickers are out to do good. They only want to inflate their egos and frick us over in the process.
Vote NO OF THE ABOVE!!!.
I completely agree. I wouldn't vote for a single one of these candidates, on either side.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:06 pm to 3nOut
quote:Uhhh, he introduced a Constitutional amendment to overrule Obergefell and fought through Huckabee's staff for stage time with Kim Davis
I meant that after the SCOTUS ruling he said he'll respect the law of the land. I believe he and Rubio both took the stance of we don't like it, but it's the law.
Not that Huckabee full right wing crap.
What daylight on social issues do you imagine there to be between these two?
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:11 pm to Iosh
I had to go read to make sure I wasn't crazy.
He's still opposed to gay marriage but wants it to be a state's rights issue.
I've been drinking a lot of scotch tonight. Forgive my transgressions.
He's still opposed to gay marriage but wants it to be a state's rights issue.
I've been drinking a lot of scotch tonight. Forgive my transgressions.
This post was edited on 1/18/16 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:16 pm to Iosh
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Looks like someone is coming to Iowa tonight
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TRUMP will be a few miles north of Des Moines tomorrow. Could it be?!
This was a clown free-for-all.
If this is who I think it is, then Iowa just welcomed the circus . That lady is BSC! Don't get me wrong, she has that cougar thing going for her which came a long way in getting republicans to liking her, but John McCain should have never chosen her. I was a John McCain supporter all the way until she came into the spotlight. After that, I decided to not vote. I couldn't bring myself to vote that year. In 2012, It felt more like a futile attempt to dethrone Obama with Romney so I decided to write in Kodos. It's looking like it's Kodos in 2016 once again. 
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:35 pm to greenbastard
I would let Sarah Palin knock my junk around.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 10:57 pm to ISEN_AG
The best candidates don't bother with running for President. We need a viable third party ASAP.
We have serious problems in this country when people like Trump and Palin are getting this much attention...
We have serious problems in this country when people like Trump and Palin are getting this much attention...
Posted on 1/19/16 at 11:16 am to Spirit Of Aggieland
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We have serious problems in this country when people like Trump and Palin are getting this much attention...
You do realize Bernie freaking Sanders, and Mafia o'so Clinton are getting the same amount of attention.
Good thing is, Hillary is about to be indicted, so she won't be running soon.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 11:31 am to WRTC
Hillary will be the next president. Nothing is going to stop that train. All the discussion of actual issues and potential misdoings pales in comparison to the amount of voters who will vote for Hillary because A. the country did really well when Bill was president or B. want to be "part of history" by voting for the first female President. That's it. The average voter is a moron.
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