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re: Jake Holland award AKA worst starter on your team

Posted on 8/3/15 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 3:22 pm to
I know you want to blame shitty defensive production on him instead of Chief's mental lapses, but Welter was a solid contributor for the Tigers.

In 2013, Welter had 80 total tackles, 4.0 TFL, and 2.0 sacks in 13 games, which are pretty solid numbers for an SEC linebacker.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 3:30 pm to
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In 2013, Welter had 80 total tackles, 4.0 TFL, and 2.0 sacks in 13 games, which are pretty solid numbers for an SEC linebacker.



Stats hardly tell the story here, he was late getting to the ball carrier COUNTLESS times. Only 25 of those tackles were solo. By comparison, Minter the previous year had 55 solo tackles.
Posted by therick711
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

I know you want to blame shitty defensive production on him instead of Chief's mental lapses, but Welter was a solid contributor for the Tigers.

In 2013, Welter had 80 total tackles, 4.0 TFL, and 2.0 sacks in 13 games, which are pretty solid numbers for an SEC linebacker.


Go look at the numbers for the guy in 2012 to understand how shitty those numbers are. Also, he had like 25 solo tackles at mlb.

DJ had 25 solo tackles, 55 assited tackles, 80 total tackles, yet only 4 TFL netting - 11 yards. In a scheme that is designed (by Chavis' own words on Moscona's (local radio) show) to make your mlb the focus of the scheme, that just isn't enough production. Also number of tackles doesn't tell you anything. If I told you that a guy got 15 tackles, and they all came after a gain of 10 or more yards, would you be fired up by that? Where tackles are made is as important as making the tackle.

By way of example, Kevin Minter had 55 solo 75 assisting 130 (!) total tackles and capped that astounding production with 15.0 TFL netting - 52 yards. Over twice as many solo tackles. In a scheme that demands that, it is huge! When you remove that ability from the middle of Chavis' scheme, you get run on a lot. That's why it is an issue.
Posted by southeasttiger113
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 3:54 pm to
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I know you want to blame shitty defensive production on him instead of Chief's mental lapses
What does this even mean?
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Welter was a solid contributor for the Tigers
Thanks for filling me in on a player that I watched struggle in every game he played for two years. No, he actually wasn't a solid contributor. He was slow as shite laterally, constantly got hung up on blockers, and was flat out awful in general.
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In 2013, Welter had 80 total tackles, 4.0 TFL, and 2.0 sacks in 13 games, which are pretty solid numbers for an SEC linebacker.
80 total tackles? Yea, he had 25 solo tackles and 55 assisted tackles. I get that you're completely clueless about this but 25 solo tackles, 4 TFL, and 2 sacks is terrible for a starting middle linebacker in the SEC. He played in 26 games in his junior and senior years with 20+ starts and he had 32 fricking solo tackles over that span. He was awful and you have no clue what you're talking about
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 8/3/15 at 4:57 pm to
Welter was not a solid contributor, regardless of those stats. He regularly missed assignments and got abused at least half a dozen times a game. Opponents schemed at Welter
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