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re: Yeezus Christ........Kim Anderson
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:39 am to JesusQuintana
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:39 am to JesusQuintana
Sure you can, this program was a mild rebuild at best, and he's turned it into a dumpster fire after only one season. If we have another sub-.500 year, we won't be signing Cook or Sneed or any other 4*+ player with other options. That's not even mentioning guys leaving the program like a Gant or Wright. KA needs to win and win now, this isn't some 4-5 year project, it's completely unacceptable to not be at least .500.
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:47 am to mosoblkcougar
Marshall went 11-20 his first year @ Wichita ST....................In the MVC. You people need to get a grip. We had a top 10 schedule, with 2 starters being injured for significant portions of the season and multiple discipline issues. Go root for a different team.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 12:11 pm to seaniec04
Gfy
Posted on 7/16/15 at 12:35 pm to the808bass
Posted on 7/16/15 at 1:53 pm to seaniec04
You just don't get it. You may be perfectly content to watch a Mizzou team win 8 games...which should NEVER happen...NOT EVEN in a rebuilding process. In the meantime you want to shite on fans that are demanding/asking/expecting more from the Mizzou program than what has be provided in the last couple of years.
If anyone should find a different team to root for it's yourself. My brother says if you're content enjoying 8 win seasons you can always root for his Drake Bulldogs. Hell, they're even an MVC team that builds teams with chemistry and no talent. Right up your alley.
Serious question. Are you related to KA? If anyone even tries to look at the team objectively you get all wound up.
If anyone should find a different team to root for it's yourself. My brother says if you're content enjoying 8 win seasons you can always root for his Drake Bulldogs. Hell, they're even an MVC team that builds teams with chemistry and no talent. Right up your alley.
Serious question. Are you related to KA? If anyone even tries to look at the team objectively you get all wound up.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:06 pm to seaniec04
Even In bad years you can usually see something getting better. Last year you saw improvement nowhere. Nothing, nadda, zip.
I don't know where you guys are coming up with we had no talent. Look at the other teams that offered some of the guys we had that left. Hell look where some transferred to. We had talent but no one to develop it. We regressed in every aspect.
I don't know where you guys are coming up with we had no talent. Look at the other teams that offered some of the guys we had that left. Hell look where some transferred to. We had talent but no one to develop it. We regressed in every aspect.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:10 pm to seaniec04
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Marshall went 11-20 his first year @ Wichita ST
and 17-17 in his second year. Do you think this Mizzou team is going to get to double digit wins let alone .500 this year?
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Go root for a different team.
ah yes...this oldie but goodie response.
Fans demanding more, trying to push the program in a higher direction should move on...makes complete sense.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:43 pm to seaniec04
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Marshall went 11-20 his first year @ Wichita ST....................In the MVC. You people need to get a grip. We had a top 10 schedule, with 2 starters being injured for significant portions of the season and multiple discipline issues. Go root for a different team.
You get an upvote. I see your rational approach hasn't gone over too well here.
There are legitimate reasons for people to be suspicious of where things are going under KA, there are very good reasons to be downright mad about last year and these players transferring.
Unfortunately most people can't separate things. They just like pushing round objects into round holes and patting themselves on the back for doing their job to understand something.
There's a bunch of things to consider here to understand the big picture. It's a lot easier to sit in the back seat and yell 'are we there yet', which is what all of these people are doing, and have been doing from day 1.
shite.. this team had obvious personnel issues, injuries, problems with Fuller, a very tough schedule. They were in a lot of games against some good teams like Illinois and Arkansas. Last second things go different and that positive feedback could have helped alleviate the negativity within the program.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:44 pm to kilo
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and 17-17 in his second year. Do you think this Mizzou team is going to get to double digit wins let alone .500 this year?
Before Tiki left I really thought this team was going to be over .500, possibly by a considerable amount.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:49 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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There's a bunch of things to consider here to understand the big picture. It's a lot easier to sit in the back seat and yell 'are we there yet', which is what all of these people are doing, and have been doing from day 1.
And you don't know shite about basketball.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:57 pm to the808bass
The one sport I never played. I really don't know about the x's and o's, and I really don't enjoy watching it much.
But it's true, from day one people have been in the back seat yelling 'are we there yet'. It's been a display incredible immaturity.
Like that guy said, Marshall was well under .500 his first year. It took Pinkel a few years to get things rolling. We can find a thousand examples.
Fuller created an issue off the court, surely that negativity bled into the team.
There was obvious personnel issues. No good big man. No alpha leader with skill (Rosberg tried to lead but he's a putz).
It's a fact the team played well at times against some really good teams. It's a fact they had some last second bad luck. It's probable that those close games going their favor could have eased some of the negativity and triggered some better results.
It's a fact anyone with real talent was a Freshman.
This isn't a defense of KA, it's in defense of the whole picture. I'm sure this comes across as defending KA since almost all people are stuck in the Hegelian paradigm.
But it's true, from day one people have been in the back seat yelling 'are we there yet'. It's been a display incredible immaturity.
Like that guy said, Marshall was well under .500 his first year. It took Pinkel a few years to get things rolling. We can find a thousand examples.
Fuller created an issue off the court, surely that negativity bled into the team.
There was obvious personnel issues. No good big man. No alpha leader with skill (Rosberg tried to lead but he's a putz).
It's a fact the team played well at times against some really good teams. It's a fact they had some last second bad luck. It's probable that those close games going their favor could have eased some of the negativity and triggered some better results.
It's a fact anyone with real talent was a Freshman.
This isn't a defense of KA, it's in defense of the whole picture. I'm sure this comes across as defending KA since almost all people are stuck in the Hegelian paradigm.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:05 pm to Sleeping Tiger
1). You fricked up using Hegelian there. Good effort though.
2). For every Marshall, there's 10 coaches who sucked the first year. And followed it up by sucking the second year and the third year and the fourth year. Sucking isn't a necessary condition to rebuilding. It is as likely a predictor (if not more) that we continue in sucking.
3). If it's mindless criticism ("He's old!!!!"), then I think your point is warranted. If it's "well, we didn't have any semblance of an offense installed last year and it showed and he admitted he didn't work on offense" then that's a legitimate issue and criticism. We aren't Tigerboard here. And I feel most of the criticism has been far more factually and results based than simple "get off my lawn" stuff.
2). For every Marshall, there's 10 coaches who sucked the first year. And followed it up by sucking the second year and the third year and the fourth year. Sucking isn't a necessary condition to rebuilding. It is as likely a predictor (if not more) that we continue in sucking.
3). If it's mindless criticism ("He's old!!!!"), then I think your point is warranted. If it's "well, we didn't have any semblance of an offense installed last year and it showed and he admitted he didn't work on offense" then that's a legitimate issue and criticism. We aren't Tigerboard here. And I feel most of the criticism has been far more factually and results based than simple "get off my lawn" stuff.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:17 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Before Tiki left
A lot of players have "left" recently. Who gets that blame?
There is nothing rational about using a blanket generalization to white wash people's arguments against Kim Anderson. You realize that right? While you blast people for being not being rational.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:27 pm to the808bass
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1). You fricked up using Hegelian there. Good effort though.
Not really.
People have a hard time balancing more than two things at once, it's either this or that. They choose either end of the spectrum. Anything that has the tone that doesn't agree with their side of the spectrum means it belongs on the other side of the spectrum.
People are usually incapable of taking all of the many pieces to create something unique to the spectrum, something that is different than this or that.
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or every Marshall, there's 10 coaches who sucked the first year. And followed it up by sucking the second year and the third year and the fourth year. .
This is true. Of course it's true.
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then that's a legitimate issue and criticism.
I said there was legitimate reason to be concerned about where this is heading, and good reason to be mad, yes?
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We aren't Tigerboard here. And I feel most of the criticism has been far more factually and results based than simple "get off my lawn" stuff.
It's been a cry-fest since we last to UMKC. Basically since the day we hired an old D2 coach people have been pretty bitchy and irrationally impatient.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:44 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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Not really.
Really.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:48 pm to the808bass
I don't get why you're such a shithead to me. Oh well.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:15 pm to Sleeping Tiger
That wasn't being a shithead. It was saving you from incorrectly using Hegelian dialectic in front of someone who would know better. It was practically a PSA.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:31 pm to the808bass
Umm.
I hope you're drinking.
I hope you're drinking.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:54 pm to Sleeping Tiger
How about this for a break down of the team.
The team was like a steaming pile of crap. But even a steaming pile of crap can have good things in it, like berries, nuts, etc. But it's still a pile of crap. Now, that doesn't mean that that pile of crap won't turn into something glorious in the future, like fertilizer, and lead to feeding of the hungry. But in its current state, you got it, it's still a pile of crap.
The team was like a steaming pile of crap. But even a steaming pile of crap can have good things in it, like berries, nuts, etc. But it's still a pile of crap. Now, that doesn't mean that that pile of crap won't turn into something glorious in the future, like fertilizer, and lead to feeding of the hungry. But in its current state, you got it, it's still a pile of crap.
Posted on 7/17/15 at 8:37 am to reedus23
Nicely put, reedus. Nicely put.
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