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How mad is Dylan Roof?
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:36 am
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:36 am
Poor little racist. He didn't start the anarchy he thought would occur. Instead, all of his previous symbology is being removed from pubic places. I'm not sure a more opposite reaction could've happened.
So, did he know what's going on on the outside? Are black guards laughing and filling him in on the details? Bringing him the newspapers?
So, did he know what's going on on the outside? Are black guards laughing and filling him in on the details? Bringing him the newspapers?
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Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:37 am to CCTider
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:40 am to CCTider
Ummmm, be basically accomplished exactly what he wanted. People are petitioning to ban the American flag. People who aren't racist are feeling pressed by the absurd actions being taken by activists.
I'm not sure how you view this turmoil as a good thing. By doing shite like tearing down memorials, you're helping the little a-hole get what he set out to accomplish.
I'm not sure how you view this turmoil as a good thing. By doing shite like tearing down memorials, you're helping the little a-hole get what he set out to accomplish.
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 9:42 am
Posted on 6/30/15 at 11:07 am to CCTider
I don't think he gave two shits about the confederate flag any more than he loved the Rhodesian and South African flags.
They just represented--even in part--the ideals that he believed.
Flying them or not from whatever doesn't mean he or anyone else wouldn't feel hatred towards black people.
What angered him more (or probably confused him more) would be the outpouring of forgiveness from the black community along with the bonding of races in Charleston. The community has really come together and looks to move forward. THAT's what should piss him off, not some stupid flag.
They just represented--even in part--the ideals that he believed.
Flying them or not from whatever doesn't mean he or anyone else wouldn't feel hatred towards black people.
What angered him more (or probably confused him more) would be the outpouring of forgiveness from the black community along with the bonding of races in Charleston. The community has really come together and looks to move forward. THAT's what should piss him off, not some stupid flag.
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 11:08 am
Posted on 6/30/15 at 11:12 am to CCTider
He's a little too occupied by BBC to answer that right now. He'll have to get back to you.
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 6/30/15 at 11:22 am to CCTider
How do you know him so well?
Posted on 6/30/15 at 11:28 am to CCTider
He's a "self-radicalized" terrorist. In other words, he's bat-shite crazy just like the other mutants who take guns into places where they know there's not likely to be any opposition to their attacks.
Schools, meetings, places of work or businesses, movie theaters and now churches. These cowards never attack police stations, Hell's Angels bars, inner city bars or any place where somebody might logically be packing.
The POS in Charleston even spent an hour casing the Emanuel AME Church before he opened fire on those helpless congregants. He could dish out bullets but he didn't want to face one. Now he'll face a needle instead.
Except for killing nine people, none of his goals were met. He did more to unite Charleston than any community leaders ever could have done. I don't think that will spare him from the death penalty, however.
Schools, meetings, places of work or businesses, movie theaters and now churches. These cowards never attack police stations, Hell's Angels bars, inner city bars or any place where somebody might logically be packing.
The POS in Charleston even spent an hour casing the Emanuel AME Church before he opened fire on those helpless congregants. He could dish out bullets but he didn't want to face one. Now he'll face a needle instead.
Except for killing nine people, none of his goals were met. He did more to unite Charleston than any community leaders ever could have done. I don't think that will spare him from the death penalty, however.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 1:52 pm to CCTider
Mike Rowe summed things up well, imo. Something the vast majority.. STILL seem unable to comprehend.
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The Confederate Battle Flag makes me feel angry. It reminds me of The KKK. I hate The KKK. Consequently, the sight of that flag makes me want to travel back in time, long before the Klan came together, find the original Grand Wizard, and beat him to death with a golf club.
Swastikas also make me angry. They remind me of Nazis. I really hate Nazis. Consequently, whenever I see a swastika, I want to travel back in time, find Hitler long before he came to power, and beat him to death with a golf club too.
I know it’s irrational to allow talismans of evil to fill me with fantasies of time-traveling violence, but I’m a human being. I have no control over my feelings, or what triggers them. Fortunately though, I also have a brain. It’s a modest brain, but it functions in a way that allows me to acknowledge my feelings without being guided by them. Thanks to my brain, I came to realize that my feelings - while endlessly important to me - are surprisingly unpersuasive to everyone else. Consequently, while I’d love to tell you more about how I feel, I’m going to try instead to tell you what I think.
I think we need to be very careful about congratulating ourselves too enthusiastically for removing a piece of cloth from the public square - even if it’s removal is long overdue. I also think we need to stop calling people racist, just because they see the flag as something other than a symbol of hate. This is what happens when we put a premium on our feelings. We assume everyone who disagrees with us is not merely wrong, but dangerous.
I know many good Southerners who abhor racism, but view this flag as an important connection to their ancestors - the vast majority of whom never owned slaves. This doesn’t mean the flag should be allowed to fly on public property - not for a minute. But it’s a mistake in my view, to equate the removal of a symbol, with the removal of the evil it’s come to symbolize. And that’s exactly what a lot of people are doing. We’re conflating cause and effect.
For instance, we look at that picture of Dylan Roof, and we see a bigot who appears to have fallen off the cover of American Racist Quarterly. He’s got the whole package - vapid stare, dopey haircut, fancy apartheid patches, and of course, the Confederate Battle Flag. We’re repulsed, and yet, we also feel relief, because now we understand exactly what he is - he’s a racist, plain and simple. Now, all we have to do is eliminate the hatred that drove him to murder.
Sadly, we have no idea how to do that. Nor can we go back in time to introduce his head to a golf club, and save us all the agony of his cowardly act. So what do we do? We target his accessories. We focus on the accoutrements of bigotry, and assign them magical powers.
By all means - lets take the flag down. It’s long past time. But let’s not fool ourselves. Racism and terrorism and all the other hate-filled "-isms" that plague the species will never be eliminated by banning flags, burning books, limiting speech, or outlawing white sheets and pointy little hats. When Dylan Roof walked into The First Emanuel Church and killed nine black Americans, he wasn’t waving his rebel flag or screaming the N-word. He didn’t look like a racist. He didn’t act like a racist. Until he started killing people.
That's the problem with people in white sheets and pointy hats. They don’t always dress the part, or carry the proper flag.
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 6/30/15 at 2:31 pm to CCTider
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Instead, all of his previous symbology is being removed from pubic places
Suspect that hurt like a motherfricker.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 4:06 pm to CCTider
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He didn't start the anarchy he thought would occur. Instead, all of his previous symbology is being removed from pubic places. I'm not sure a more opposite reaction could've happened.
The intended reaction happened.
It was an intelligence community psyop.
Knock out at least 3 birds with one stone -- throw a giant log on racial tension, cause a devastating blow to a niche of American culture, and the big one, initiate a 24/7 news story on a shooting incident instead of on the new trade agreement passing fast track authority.
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 6/30/15 at 8:34 pm to CCTider
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Poor little racist. He didn't start the anarchy he thought would occur. Instead, all of his previous symbology is being removed from pubic places. I'm not sure a more opposite reaction could've happened.
So, did he know what's going on on the outside? Are black guards laughing and filling him in on the details? Bringing him the newspapers?
If anything, I bet he's thrilled. The kid was a terrorist, and we've over reacted to this event. We should take down the Confederate flag, but not because of this psychopath, but just because we know it no longer belongs in this era. The kid (who I honestly can say I don't know his name) has won.
Forgetting about him is the only way to defeat the prick, but most news organizations don't give a frick and keep on talking about him and showing his image. It's simply irresponsible to glorify this kids actions and make him seem all powerful, since it will only serve to inspire future serial killers that they can terrify the whole nation and make us now before him. All we should do is throw him in a dark rat infested cell and feed him nothing but gruel and forget he exists.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 4:18 pm to CCTider
It would be cool if people talked about the incident in an investigating manner instead of spending all their time talking about the off-shoot issues of race and flags ect.
Posted on 7/2/15 at 12:26 am to CCTider
I always feel kinda sorry for the suspects family in cases like this
Poor sister had to cancel her wedding
Poor sister had to cancel her wedding
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