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So what is KA's system?
Posted on 4/2/15 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 4/2/15 at 12:29 pm
Serious question. I've heard people talk about his system all year. We have a thread about buying into his system. So what, exactly, is his system?
I saw no discernible system all year. The closest thing I can come up with off of the top of my head is the 4 corners we'd run for 30 seconds and then force a shot or force a drive to the basket that wasn't there.
Defensively, I didn't see any one thing that stood out to me as a system.
Or when we talk about his system, are we talking about not wearing a hat to eat, not slouching and articulating your words properly? I don't say that to slam him, but mean are we talking about a change in the mindset of the team in how they approach life?
I saw no discernible system all year. The closest thing I can come up with off of the top of my head is the 4 corners we'd run for 30 seconds and then force a shot or force a drive to the basket that wasn't there.
Defensively, I didn't see any one thing that stood out to me as a system.
Or when we talk about his system, are we talking about not wearing a hat to eat, not slouching and articulating your words properly? I don't say that to slam him, but mean are we talking about a change in the mindset of the team in how they approach life?
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:04 pm to reedus23
If you look at team he has coached, you can get an idea.
Defense:
Tend to be average at best. Don't foul, very few turnovers, solid rebounding.
Offense:
Run a Selfstyled high low, don't turn the ball over,good shooting,& average around 75 ppg.
Defense:
Tend to be average at best. Don't foul, very few turnovers, solid rebounding.
Offense:
Run a Selfstyled high low, don't turn the ball over,good shooting,& average around 75 ppg.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:15 pm to wubilli
His offense requires a legit point guard and 2 bigs. Of which we maybe had 1 of those.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:17 pm to reedus23
Go watch his CMU teams. There's no discernible offense there. For all of the Norm-lover talk on TB, there was a lot of one-on-one basketball and basic screen and roll.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 1:58 pm to the808bass
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Go watch his CMU teams. There's no discernible offense there. For all of the Norm-lover talk on TB, there was a lot of one-on-one basketball and basic screen and roll.
I'm going to because I saw none of all the stuff that people talk about.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 2:04 pm to reedus23
Yea that's the thing, everything that his teams did from year 3 on at CMSU was missing last year.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 5:45 pm to reedus23
I hardly ever see anything really systematic in basketball, I'm sure it has something to do with not ever playing it on an organized level. I'm sure there are zone defenses vs man-man ect. But overall I think it's a stupid sport when it comes to systems.
Seems like coaches or more like jockey's, pushing or pulling the team on the court in certain directions, and managing who's on the floor.
The sport is just so bizarre when you really think about it or watch it a certain way.
In regards to the 'buying into the system' thread, this is what it was referring to -- buying into a culture of discipline.
Seems like coaches or more like jockey's, pushing or pulling the team on the court in certain directions, and managing who's on the floor.
The sport is just so bizarre when you really think about it or watch it a certain way.
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Or when we talk about his system, are we talking about not wearing a hat to eat, not slouching and articulating your words properly? I don't say that to slam him, but mean are we talking about a change in the mindset of the team in how they approach life?
In regards to the 'buying into the system' thread, this is what it was referring to -- buying into a culture of discipline.
This post was edited on 4/2/15 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 4/2/15 at 5:53 pm to the808bass
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Go watch his CMU teams. There's no discernible offense there. For all of the Norm-lover talk on TB, there was a lot of one-on-one basketball and basic screen and roll.
I'm not defending HCKA with what I"m about to say -- but system's have a lot to do with the assets and level of talent.
A simple, basic system that is well executed might be best for D2.
With better assets, and more complex systems to compete against then perhaps a coach would do things differently.
Just saying we shouldn't totally judge him by the systems he employed while at CMU.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 6:16 pm to hipgnosis
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In regards to the 'buying into the system' thread, this is what it was referring to -- buying into a culture of discipline.
Bingo. That is kind of my point and you hit the nail on the head. That's what people are really talking about.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 8:35 pm to reedus23
You still run through the post in a high low. Haith's teams were awful at getting the ball inside. If two teams are even you go inside first. You resort to the 3 ball when you can't beat a team inside. Inside game is always there, trays go and come. Sure anyone can beat anyone in college if kids get hot, it's just not repeatable. You look for a good shot as opposed to contested. When you don't have players that understand what your implementing it doesn't work. Treasure the ball on offense, pressure the ball on defense. It's not just about your man, help defense is key (Virginia). Always contest shots, box out and get on the floor. It's more about establishing principles in how players play the game. He generally out of timeouts had solid plays drawn up. The key is to get players to do all of this without thinking and being unselfish. This takes time and cohesion. 2 things KA has not been able to develop ask of yet (tough task in yr 1). I just hope the lack of support isn't hurting our recruiting as many think he is already the wrong hire and should be gone already. Recruits want to know he will be here. The list is extensive of great coaches who had dog shite records their first few years. He needs time to recruit his type of player weather scout or rivals says so or not. Unless you are one of 5 or so programs you build your program and then get the big players attention. Usually not the other way around unless we want to start paying people......
Posted on 4/2/15 at 8:57 pm to seaniec04
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@CoachTimFFuller: @kharyw @Im_back_15 @oTrillMaine @tekihwbt for 2016 put in the work now to make your dreams come true #MizzouMade means something special
Interesting quote from Fuller. He tweeted a bunch today.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 9:09 pm to seaniec04
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seaniec04
Yeah, I didn't see much of any of that. I know. I know. Blame the players. Not a "true son". At the end of the day, they both hold responsibility for that, or at least for not having shown any signs of consistent improvement in doing any of what you listed out by the end of the season.
Lack of support as in lack of attendance could hurt I suppose. But that falls back on KA as well. Win and they will come.
As always, he will get his time. I'm just not sold he can get it done yet. Hopeful but not convinced.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 10:06 pm to reedus23
Ha I hear ya, hopefully he gets it going sooner than later! If he can somehow get the Bryant kid he could make a huge difference. Looks to be uphill, but crazier things have happened.
Posted on 4/2/15 at 10:09 pm to seaniec04
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If he can somehow get the Bryant kid he could make a huge difference.
That would a be a huge get for KA. The bigger thing for him right now might be making sure we don't lose more guys. That scares the crap out of me as for getting things going in the right direction.
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