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Time machine allows you to go back in time. The one caveat is simple ....
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:05 pm
You can only go back in time and you can only go back to one very specific date ... midnight 22 June 1787.
You will be picked-up exactly one year later at midnight on 21 June 1788.
These dates are fundamental to the purpose of your agreeing to take this trip.
You've got roughly 90 days until the U.S. Constitution is created, and one year until it is then ratified (from the original date you arrived.)
You'll have access to Jefferson, Franklin and Adams both individually and together.
What wording do you change, what do you subtract and/or add to the original document?
You may acknowledge the fact, to the three gentlemen mentioned above, that you are from the future and explain to them why you want certain wording changed, subtracted or added-to and give them examples of what went wrong that needs to be corrected for the sake of the future.
Edited Subject line "pne" to "one."
You will be picked-up exactly one year later at midnight on 21 June 1788.
These dates are fundamental to the purpose of your agreeing to take this trip.
You've got roughly 90 days until the U.S. Constitution is created, and one year until it is then ratified (from the original date you arrived.)
You'll have access to Jefferson, Franklin and Adams both individually and together.
What wording do you change, what do you subtract and/or add to the original document?
You may acknowledge the fact, to the three gentlemen mentioned above, that you are from the future and explain to them why you want certain wording changed, subtracted or added-to and give them examples of what went wrong that needs to be corrected for the sake of the future.
Edited Subject line "pne" to "one."
This post was edited on 3/22/15 at 11:07 pm
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Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:07 pm to scrooster
I already did this. Without my guidance, blacks would only have counted as 1/5 of a vote.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:08 pm to scrooster
Isn't this how scientology was created?
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:08 pm to scrooster
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What wording do you change, what do you subtract and/or add to the original document?
I'd clarify the second amendment.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear assault rifles, handguns, machine guns, flamethrowers and any type of chemical, nuclear or biological weapon, shall not be infringed.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:12 pm to scrooster
Scrooster, this is too much responsibility for any of the nuts on this board.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:13 pm to scrooster
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Time machine allows you to go back in time.
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only go back to one very specific date ... midnight 22 June 1787
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U.S.
I decline the offer to go back in time
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:16 pm to scrooster
I tell Hancock to not be such a pompous dick and sign his name like the rest of us.
This post was edited on 3/22/15 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:21 pm to scrooster
I would strongly encourage them to make clear the binding finality of joining the Union.
None of this secession bullshite.
None of this secession bullshite.
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:50 pm to scrooster
I would have them include term limits on those elected to Congress.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:09 am to scrooster
Medical insurance for all 
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:17 am to scrooster
I wouldn't want to go back in time. Much more interested in the future. Let me go to 22 June 2787.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:19 am to scrooster
Whatever you change the judges would still interpret it the way they want to.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 7:52 am to scrooster
And why are these dudes going to listen to me? I'm a "giant" man with tattoos, speaking with a strange accent and possessing no letters of introduction. I'm gonna be lucky if I make it the year before being hanged or thrown in a bunk next to Queequeg on some whaler. Any chance you can hook me up with one of those powdery wigs and some stockings?
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 7:55 am
Posted on 3/23/15 at 8:09 am to scrooster
I would put something in there about abolishing slavery with a time table to return all slaves back to Africa before the year 1800.
I think that's fair.
I think that's fair.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 8:52 am to scrooster
Ok so after I fix the Constitution and Bill of Rights to suit my own selfish wants and needs, can I travel in time to anywhere I want?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 10:07 am to scrooster
Add:
Term limits to all national elected posts.
Instead of 'landed men', 'tax paying' men receive the vote. Women being added probably wouldn't go over well yet.
The interstate commerce clause would changed from:
"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."
to:
"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States with the expressed agreement of a majority of the states, and with the Indian Tribes."
Specify a national language.
Add an interstate infrastructure system to the federal government's powers. Require a minimum percentage of the federal budget to be set aside for infrastructure construction. 5% sounds adequate.
All the other amendments will come in time, when the nation is ready for them.
Remove:
The ability to become a citizen by being born within the US borders.
Term limits to all national elected posts.
Instead of 'landed men', 'tax paying' men receive the vote. Women being added probably wouldn't go over well yet.
The interstate commerce clause would changed from:
"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."
to:
"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States with the expressed agreement of a majority of the states, and with the Indian Tribes."
Specify a national language.
Add an interstate infrastructure system to the federal government's powers. Require a minimum percentage of the federal budget to be set aside for infrastructure construction. 5% sounds adequate.
All the other amendments will come in time, when the nation is ready for them.
Remove:
The ability to become a citizen by being born within the US borders.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 10:09 am
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:31 pm to scrooster
only if I could take an arsenal. Then mother frickers ain't making my black arse pick no goddamn cotton. frick all that bullshite.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 1:32 pm to scrooster
I'd tell them to save the teacher that's going to ride her wagon into Clayton Ravine and die.
Seriously, I'd clarify the general welfare clause to make it less ambiguous. How? I dunno.
Seriously, I'd clarify the general welfare clause to make it less ambiguous. How? I dunno.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:20 am to scrooster
I wouldn't establish a national church, which the Founders were adamant to avoid, but I would lobby for an amendment the declares that Christianity was the preferred or official religion of the country. Modern Germany has a similar position, and it avoids all of this "all faiths are created equal" garbage. I would make it very clear that this doesn't mean that the church will be consulted on any matters of the state, but that the state would not bend over backwards to accommodate the sensibilities of other faiths in matters. This intention of this isn't to require all Americans to be Christians (which is ludicrous), but it would clearly and unequivocally state that this country is founded on Judeo-Christian principles. The Ten Commandments are welcome in the courthouse, for instance, and we wouldn't have people trying to sue high schools from offering a prayer before a football game. You're welcome to practice whatever you wish in your home or church, of course, but you can't expect the state to be willing to give equal time to Islamic/Hindu/Satanic monuments.
Other business, is that any state is welcome to leave the union at any time if that state's legislature approves secession with a 3/4 vote. The only condition is that the state must pay its per capita share of any debt the Federals have incurred. Basically, a no-fault divorce clause.
I would also include an amendment or clause that declares a base minimum 7% protective tariff for all international imports. This would kill free trade, but not be so punitive to kill international economics. Purely meant to help encourage domestic production and manufacturing.
I'd also severely neuter the power of the executive, and further concentrate power in the legislative. This includes an easier path for impeachment, and the ability for the congress to remove judges with a 3/4 vote.
Other business, is that any state is welcome to leave the union at any time if that state's legislature approves secession with a 3/4 vote. The only condition is that the state must pay its per capita share of any debt the Federals have incurred. Basically, a no-fault divorce clause.
I would also include an amendment or clause that declares a base minimum 7% protective tariff for all international imports. This would kill free trade, but not be so punitive to kill international economics. Purely meant to help encourage domestic production and manufacturing.
I'd also severely neuter the power of the executive, and further concentrate power in the legislative. This includes an easier path for impeachment, and the ability for the congress to remove judges with a 3/4 vote.
Posted on 3/24/15 at 9:38 am to scrooster
I would put clearer language into the expansion clauses (inter-state commerce and necessary & proper clauses), put in clearer language protecting the 1st amendment, and attempt to use my knowledge of the future to convince southern delegates to agree to a sunset clause on slavery, where after a certain date, the children of slaves are no longer slaves, but full citizens once they turn 18, and a ban on slave importation after a certain date, with the hopes of politically preventing both the Civil War and the disastrous presidencies of Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Johnson, and U.S. Grant.
Basically, I could use my knowledge of the future to close the wiggle room that lawyers, judges, and our government have used in the past to expand its power like Civil Forfeiture, civil rights, popular sovereignty, imminent domain, marshal law, voter fraud, regulation of utilities, public sector unions, ect.
If I can correct all of the grey areas to make the Federal government smaller, more free, and more efficient, while still giving it teeth to prevent states from abusing the rights of their citizens, I feel like I could prevent many of the issues we face today as a nation.
Basically, I could use my knowledge of the future to close the wiggle room that lawyers, judges, and our government have used in the past to expand its power like Civil Forfeiture, civil rights, popular sovereignty, imminent domain, marshal law, voter fraud, regulation of utilities, public sector unions, ect.
If I can correct all of the grey areas to make the Federal government smaller, more free, and more efficient, while still giving it teeth to prevent states from abusing the rights of their citizens, I feel like I could prevent many of the issues we face today as a nation.
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