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re: Last football national championship for each SEC team
Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:06 pm to NorthGwinnett LSU
Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:06 pm to NorthGwinnett LSU
I've heard the '64 Razorbacks referred to as national champions like 500 times in my life, by like 500 sources. I'm inclined to say AP and UPI be damned. And a little [further] research on the subject reveals this:
In 1964 AP and UPI (and most others) still voted their National Champions before the bowls. Most of us know this. In 1964 both Arkansas and Alabama finished their regular seasons undefeated (10-0). AP and UPI voted Alabama #1 and Arkansas #2.
THE KICKER: Alabama lost the Orange Bowl (to Texas) to finish 10-1. Arkansas won the Cotton Bowl (over #7 Nebraska) to finish 11-0. The Football Writers Association of America, which waited until after the bowls to vote its nat. champ, obviously chose Arkansas. And it obviously looked superior to either AP or UPI, which obviously ended up looking STOOPID.
KICKER #2 (THE FINISHER): The VERY NEXT season AP waited until after the bowls to name its national champion.
I'm thinking given this information we can now ALL include 1964 with 1941 re Alabama's CLAIM on national championships.
In 1964 AP and UPI (and most others) still voted their National Champions before the bowls. Most of us know this. In 1964 both Arkansas and Alabama finished their regular seasons undefeated (10-0). AP and UPI voted Alabama #1 and Arkansas #2.
THE KICKER: Alabama lost the Orange Bowl (to Texas) to finish 10-1. Arkansas won the Cotton Bowl (over #7 Nebraska) to finish 11-0. The Football Writers Association of America, which waited until after the bowls to vote its nat. champ, obviously chose Arkansas. And it obviously looked superior to either AP or UPI, which obviously ended up looking STOOPID.
KICKER #2 (THE FINISHER): The VERY NEXT season AP waited until after the bowls to name its national champion.
I'm thinking given this information we can now ALL include 1964 with 1941 re Alabama's CLAIM on national championships.
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Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:11 pm to derSturm37
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KICKER #2 (THE FINISHER): The VERY NEXT season AP waited until after the bowls to name its national champion.
You can add a couple kickers to those. The next year, Alabama finished #1 in the post-bowl poll after finishing farther down at the end of the next season. The next year, the AP voted pre-bowl again.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:12 pm to derSturm37
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I've heard the '64 Razorbacks referred to as national champions like 500 times in my life, by like 500 sources. I'm inclined to say AP and UPI be damned. And a little [further] research on the subject reveals this:
In 1964 AP and UPI (and most others) still voted their National Champions before the bowls. Most of us know this. In 1964 both Arkansas and Alabama finished their regular seasons undefeated (10-0). AP and UPI voted Alabama #1 and Arkansas #2.
THE KICKER: Alabama lost the Orange Bowl (to Texas) to finish 10-1. Arkansas won the Cotton Bowl (over #7 Nebraska) to finish 11-0. The Football Writers Association of America, which waited until after the bowls to vote its nat. champ, obviously chose Arkansas. And it obviously looked superior to either AP or UPI, which obviously ended up looking STOOPID.
KICKER #2 (THE FINISHER): The VERY NEXT season AP waited until after the bowls to name its national champion.
I'm thinking given this information we can now ALL include 1964 with 1941 re Alabama's CLAIM on national championships.
Good Job Aggie.
Texas was #1 until they lost to Arkansas.
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:27 pm to derSturm37
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Alabama lost the Orange Bowl (to Texas) to finish 10-1.
bullshite call by a Texas referee. Namath was clearly over the goal line. Had replay been around, there would be no debate.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 8:35 pm to derSturm37
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KICKER #2 (THE FINISHER): The VERY NEXT season AP waited until after the bowls to name its national champion.
Yea and LSU beat us in '65 to deny us a 2nd straight NC. I believe we had a 22? game win streak and finished with the best record in the nation for 2 consecutive seasons, but Alabama was still awarded the trophy for both years....
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 8:36 pm
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