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Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:10 am to Tornado Alley
Let's say the Texas legislature bans these Sharia non-binding arbitrations. Is there any scenario it doesn't see the law struck down for being unconstitutional at the Federal level (or State if you're somehow familiar with Texas Con Law)?
Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:11 am to Duke
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Let's say the Texas legislature bans these Sharia non-binding arbitrations. Is there any scenario it doesn't see the law struck down for being unconstitutional at the Federal level (or State if you're somehow familiar with Texas Con Law)?
It would have to be federal. Texas just makes up state laws as they go.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:26 am to Tornado Alley
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So none of this occured in the United States?
Sure it has, but the women agree to it under a cloak of fear and intimidation.
Last year an Austrailian woman was raped in Dubai by three men, so then she had to spend 8 months in jail since they wern't her husband. See where the Sharia law came in there? That was straight from the doctrine, and is perfectly acceptable to ALL muslims. Not just radicals or wahadis. The whole religion. It isn't set up and will never be able to operate under a demcracy. It's here internally in some households unfoutunately, but only because the methodical rules are never reported to local law enforcement.
The only part that should be considered IMO is when two Muslims legally separate, the men jump Sharia ship and disregard their Muslim marrage license (if drawn up outside the US before immigrating) to avoid certian payments allotted to the women under Shiria law. This furthers the idea that the whole implementation of Sharia was done to allow Muslim men to have their cake and eat it too.
Does not work under a democracy.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:30 am to Henry Jones Jr
CatFan is a female? I thought she was a gay dude?
Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:47 am to Tornado Alley
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You have obviously conceded defeat.
Not conceding. I'm just accepting that you aren't going to agree.
There are two ways to look at this:
Multi-culturalism is fine when persued within the letter of the law, specifically the constitution. It enriches our nation and leads to more understanding and co-operation, and as long as its not on my property (etc etc) it doesn't bother me. The ol' 'pick my pocket or break my leg' mantra that certain circles of libertarian thinkers adhere to.
This is putting historical and political blinders on. Multiculturalism has not worked, ever, in the history of mankind. It is a cancer that eats at the core of a nation and leads to balkanization of nation-states. Sitting back and saying "well the constitution allows it, so its ok by me" is intellectually simple and naive.
I loved my Politics of Eastern Europe 1850-present class, since we're dropping class names.
The other method is to see this for what it is: a first step in allowing equal rights for minority religious courts that operate outside the normal confines of the law. No one seriously believes that this is the 'last step' in establishing independent Sharia law in the United States. That's because it is not the last.
Muslims won't 'take over America'. They are too much a minority. But what they can do is disrupt and destabilize enough to ruin our systems and way of life. Either a minority group is assimilated or they destroy/damage the nation from within. It happens in history so often as to be impossible to miss.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 10:48 am to scrooster
Muslim gon Muslim. Derka gon derk.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 12:08 pm to scrooster
How is this different then agreeing to arbitration instead of juris?
Posted on 1/29/15 at 12:19 pm to Hardy_Har
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Last year an Austrailian woman was raped in Dubai by three men, so then she had to spend 8 months in jail since they wern't her husband. See where the Sharia law came in there?
You can't arbitrate a criminal charge, Hardy
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Does not work under a democracy.
Again, it's non-binding arbitration.
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The whole religion. It isn't set up and will never be able to operate under a demcracy
Agreed.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 12:21 pm to cokebottleag
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Multi-culturalism is fine when persued within the letter of the law, specifically the constitution.
Agreed.
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Multiculturalism has not worked, ever, in the history of mankind
You stupid frick. The laws of multi-culturalism experiment allowed you to freely type this idiotic statement without fear from government oppression.
Edit: It was rude to call you a stupid frick. I am gonna keep that posted though.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
This post was edited on 1/29/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 1/29/15 at 12:21 pm to Duke
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Let's say the Texas legislature bans these Sharia non-binding arbitrations. Is there any scenario it doesn't see the law struck down for being unconstitutional at the Federal level (or State if you're somehow familiar with Texas Con Law)?
Neither States nor the federal government can breach an implied or enumerated fundamental right without meeting strict scrutiny.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 12:50 pm to Tornado Alley
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You stupid frick. The laws of multi-culturalism experiment allowed you to freely type this idiotic statement without fear from government oppression.
Edit: It was rude to call you a stupid frick. I am gonna keep that posted though.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
No, multiculturalism did not allow me to freely type this. Western (british/German dominated) culture allowed me to. Really, you need to think about what multi-culturalism is, and what makes it different from a single culture, and the difference between freedom of speech and freedom of action. I'm not talking about a culture changing over time, due to influences in the demographic strata.
Any time you have groups of people who reside in the same nation, but have significantly different cultures, you have civil unrest and instability due to friction between the majority culture and the minority culture. Culture often (but not always) is tied to race. Just some examples (which I'm sure you won't understand, but hey, I'm gonna try):
The American Civil War
The Palestinian/Israeli conflict
Apartheid
The Indian Independence Movement
Yugoslavia's disintegration
Current unrest in Europe (France, Germany)
The period of Iraqi history under Saddam Hussein
The Ottoman rule in the Balkans
Austria-Hungary and their performance in WW1.
You think because you (I assume have completed) have a law degree, you are somehow smarter than everyone else, even in fields for which you have little to no study.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 12:56 pm to cokebottleag
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Any time you have groups of people who reside in the same nation, but have significantly different cultures, you have civil unrest and instability due to friction between the majority culture and the minority culture.
Yeah, well, this is America. We have civil unrest. It's a part of our DNA as a people. Unlike the other places around the world, our government, for the most part, stays away. Also unlike the other places around the world, and also for the most part, our citizenry will shoot you, which is awesome.
There.Will.Always.Be.Civil.Unrest.
It's a foregone conclusion. It's the way the world is.
I'm a 2L, for what it's worth.
You're advocating we separate our nation entirely based on culture? Tell me, what is American culture, then? Does it not change? Is American culture what it was in 1776? What about again in 1876, or 1976?
What about the millions of immigrants currently in our country? Should they be removed from our land because they have a different culture than you, and not necessarily the rest of us?
All I'm seeing is a bit of bigotry. New Orleans is a cultural melting pot, as is New York and San Francisco. Are those cities perfect? Of course not. Is everyone running around killing one another in the name of multiculturalism and civil unrest? frick no. Are those within a subset of a certain culture killing one another? Yes, but that's their business, I suppose.
What's your proposal, Adolf?
Posted on 1/29/15 at 12:56 pm to cokebottleag
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You think because you (I assume have completed) have a law degree, you are somehow smarter than everyone else, even in fields for which you have little to no study.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 12:58 pm to cokebottleag
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The Palestinian/Israeli conflict
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Apartheid
The Palestinians and black South Africans wanted equal treatment, brah. I guess equity isn't multicultural
Posted on 1/29/15 at 12:59 pm to Hardy_Har
Yes, Hardy. Let's ban Islam. That'll show them.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 12:59 pm to Tornado Alley
Simple. We kill the Muhammad.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:02 pm to Rebelgator
Lawd, you gon' get TD hacked
Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:03 pm to Rebelgator
I can't NOT read that in the Joker's voice.
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