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re: Sharia law established in Dallas, Texas ...

Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:04 pm to
Camel's don't have thumbs. Not too worried.
Posted by Hardy_Har
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:13 pm to
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Let's ban Islam


I never said that and you know it. Worship whatever the hell you want, but don't use religious laws to misconstrue federal laws, individual rights and freedom.

This is a stupid arguement.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:15 pm to
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Yeah, well, this is America. We have civil unrest. It's a part of our DNA as a people. Unlike the other places around the world, our government, for the most part, stays away. Also unlike the other places around the world, and also for the most part, our citizenry will shoot you, which is awesome.


Ok, civil unrest is the wrong term. Violent insurrection would have been better and more keenly describe the outcome of multi-culturalism.

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You're advocating we separate our nation entirely based on culture? Tell me, what is American culture, then? Does it not change? Is American culture what it was in 1776? What about again in 1876, or 1976?



No, separating a nation based on culture is balkanization and is the undesired ending that multi-C leads to.

I fully understand and agree that American culture in 2014 is not the same as the same culture in 1976, 1876, etc.

The preferred and most desired method is assimilation.

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What about the millions of immigrants currently in our country? Should they be removed from our land because they have a different culture than you, and not necessarily the rest of us?


No. They should be assimilated. English as the national language, and all classes in schools are required to be taught in the same language. Language is an important cultural unifier, maybe the most important one that can be controlled. Singapore does this. They are a PERFECT example of a state that began with basically multicultural beginnings and assimilated the populace of Chinese, Indian, White (very, very few), and Malaysian into a single culture. Chinese-decedent Singaporeans bristle if you call them "Chinese-Singaporeans". Likewise, Malaysia's insistence on racial affirmative action doomed their union with Singapore from the start. It led to a jewel of a city segmenting off.

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All I'm seeing is a bit of bigotry. New Orleans is a cultural melting pot, as is New York and San Francisco. Are those cities perfect? Of course not. Is everyone running around killing one another in the name of multiculturalism and civil unrest? frick no. Are those within a subset of a certain culture killing one another? Yes, but that's their business, I suppose.


You are still failing to grasp what I'm saying and mistaking race for culture. It's a common misconception and one that the left encourages, so don't feel bad.

American culture is not a melting pot. Do you honor your ancestors with a shrine and incense? No, but you eat Sushi (I assume). American culture is more like Tomato soup traditionally, with British/German being the tomato. You can throw some seasonings in and change the flavor, maybe even add some shrimp. But it's still tomato soup. American culture hasn't had a major multi-cultural controversy since the Civil war. The 1960s was not a battle of cultures but of race. Rural black and rural white culture in the south is and was virtually identical.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:15 pm to
If we don't ban Islam it's going to explode.
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:15 pm to
By agreeing to arbitration, you're literally taking any federal or state law out of the equation, Hardy

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. That's how I see it. If someone is idiotic enough to agree to a Sharia law arbitration scheme, let them be oppressed by their own damn stupidity then.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:18 pm to
To expound on the below:

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What about the millions of immigrants currently in our country? Should they be removed from our land because they have a different culture than you, and not necessarily the rest of us?


No. They should be assimilated. English as the national language, and all classes in schools are required to be taught in the same language. Language is an important cultural unifier, maybe the most important one that can be controlled. Singapore does this. They are a PERFECT example of a state that began with basically multicultural beginnings and assimilated the populace of Chinese, Indian, White (very, very few), and Malaysian into a single culture. Chinese-decedent Singaporeans bristle if you call them "Chinese-Singaporeans". Likewise, Malaysia's insistence on racial affirmative action doomed their union with Singapore from the start. It led to a jewel of a city segmenting off.


Without immigrants, America does not enjoy the power and prestige (and the trade benefits that go with it) of the last 100 years, because we wouldn't have enough population to matter. New Zealand and Japan have relatively similar land mass and natural resources, and yet Japan is a major player and NZ is a backwater.

But those immigrants must be turned into Americans.
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:19 pm to
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But those immigrants must be turned into Americans.



Well, that's next to impossible with Islam.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:20 pm to
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Well, that's next to impossible with Islam.



Pretty much what I'm getting at, without a protestant-izing of islam in America similar to what happened to the Catholic church.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26554 posts
Posted on 1/29/15 at 1:23 pm to
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The preferred and most desired method is assimilation.


Assimilate into what? There is no definable "American" culture since our culture itself is a hodgepodge to begin with.

The only assimilation that should be advocated for would be assimilation in terms of fundamental and constitutional rights. Then again, I think you're too short sighted to formulate such a conclusion. If these people want to, in the civil arena, remove these rights . . . most of which are directed at governmental conduct to begin with . . . go ahead. That's your god damn business.

I see where we split fundamentally: your incorrect statement about Anglo/German bases and what not.

However, there is no definable "American" culture, and that's the bottom line.

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English as the national language


Incorrect. There is no national language because our pussy arse Congress refuses to have a spine and instead leans on the always conveniently-placed crutch of political correctness. If you could upvote just one part of my response, I know it would be this
Posted by knight_ryder
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:06 pm to
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The moment they do shite like a stoning or hand cutting, the feds will come down on them like a bitch.


Sums it up pretty much.
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