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Why 6 > 8
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:55 am
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:55 am
I know a lot of people are already wanting to move the playoff from 4 to 8. IMO that is really devaluing the regular season and watering down the level of play in the playoff. I think 6 is the magic number and if we look back the past few years, I think it backs up my thoughts.
2014
1. Bama 12-1
2. UO 12-1
3. FSU 13-0
4. tOSU 12-1
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5. BU 11-1
6. TCU 11-1
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7. Ms State 10-2
8. Mi State 10-2
It seems pretty clear to me there was a top 6 then everyone else. No 2 loss teams in the playoff yet it captures all 1 loss teams.
2013
1. FSU 13-0
2. Auburn 12-1
3. Bama 11-1
4. Mi State 12-1
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5. Stanford 11-2
6. BU 11-1
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7. tOSU 12-1
8. Mizzou 11-2
Here it lets in 2 loss Pac Champ Stanford, but keeps out a MIzzou team that just got killed in the champ game.
2012
1. Notre Dame 12-0
2. Bama 12-1
3. Florida 11-1
4. UO 11-1
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5. KSU 11-1
6. Stanford 11-2
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7. UGA 11-2
8. LSU 10-2
Again only lets in one 2 loss team and keeps out UGA and LSU who already had losses to the teams at the top of the rankings.
2011
1. LSU 13-0
2. Bama 11-1
3. Okie St 11-1
4. Stanford 11-1
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5. UO 11-2
6. Ark 10-2
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7. Boise St 11-1
8. KSU 10-2
Keeps out an undeserving BSU team and a not so good KSU team in a weak Big XII.
Looking back over the last 4 years which team ranked 7,8 really had a strong argument that they were the best team? The only ONE that might is tOSU in 2013, but they ended up losing to #13 Clemson in their bowl so probably not. Plus it rewards the top teams by giving them a bye like the NFL does.
2014
1. Bama 12-1
2. UO 12-1
3. FSU 13-0
4. tOSU 12-1
--
5. BU 11-1
6. TCU 11-1
--
7. Ms State 10-2
8. Mi State 10-2
It seems pretty clear to me there was a top 6 then everyone else. No 2 loss teams in the playoff yet it captures all 1 loss teams.
2013
1. FSU 13-0
2. Auburn 12-1
3. Bama 11-1
4. Mi State 12-1
--
5. Stanford 11-2
6. BU 11-1
--
7. tOSU 12-1
8. Mizzou 11-2
Here it lets in 2 loss Pac Champ Stanford, but keeps out a MIzzou team that just got killed in the champ game.
2012
1. Notre Dame 12-0
2. Bama 12-1
3. Florida 11-1
4. UO 11-1
--
5. KSU 11-1
6. Stanford 11-2
--
7. UGA 11-2
8. LSU 10-2
Again only lets in one 2 loss team and keeps out UGA and LSU who already had losses to the teams at the top of the rankings.
2011
1. LSU 13-0
2. Bama 11-1
3. Okie St 11-1
4. Stanford 11-1
--
5. UO 11-2
6. Ark 10-2
--
7. Boise St 11-1
8. KSU 10-2
Keeps out an undeserving BSU team and a not so good KSU team in a weak Big XII.
Looking back over the last 4 years which team ranked 7,8 really had a strong argument that they were the best team? The only ONE that might is tOSU in 2013, but they ended up losing to #13 Clemson in their bowl so probably not. Plus it rewards the top teams by giving them a bye like the NFL does.
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Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:55 am to Farmer1906
Up vote
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:56 am to Farmer1906
Why change.... 4 is great
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:56 am to Farmer1906
The margin of error becomes way to big with 8
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:57 am to Farmer1906
I like it. Gives the top two teams a bye.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:57 am to Gradual_Stroke
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Up vote
why would someone actually type out "up vote" and not take the half second to actually click the up vote button?
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:58 am to Farmer1906
huge disadvantages by giving teams a bye week.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:59 am to The Cajun Prince
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huge disadvantages by giving teams a bye week.
You mean huge advantage to have a bye week, right?
Posted on 12/10/14 at 9:59 am to Farmer1906
With two only one team is left out on rare occassion.
With four, up to three are left out.
With eight, six to ten are left out.
Stop the insanity now.
With four, up to three are left out.
With eight, six to ten are left out.
Stop the insanity now.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:01 am to Farmer1906
You make a pretty convincing argument there, Farmer.
I'm sold
I'm sold
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:06 am to Farmer1906
Dammit. I sincerely hate agreeing with an Aggie.
I concur. 6 teams would be a good #.
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Farmer1906
I concur. 6 teams would be a good #.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:10 am to DBU
This is why the a 16 team playoff is inevitable.... it will just take time. ("the current system is nice, but what if we just added 1 or 2 more teams")
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:12 am to Lordofwrath88
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This is why the a 16 team playoff is inevitable.... it will just take time. ("the current system is nice, but what if we just added 1 or 2 more teams")
I'm actually making an argument to only grow it by 2 and not 4 like most people are. 16 would be stupid IMO. 4 postseason games would be entirely too many.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:13 am to Lordofwrath88
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This is why the a 16 team playoff is inevitable
I know money controls a lot, but there is simply no way we'll ever have a 16 team playoff. It's not logistically feasible unless you cut down the regular season to like 9 games. Plus, WTF would be the point of the regular season if the SIXTEENTH ranked team in the country has a shot at the national title? If you already lost like 3 or 4 games to put you back that far, sorry but you lost your shot.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:15 am to TxTiger82
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I like it. Gives the top two teams a bye.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:16 am to Farmer1906
I've always thought 8 was an ideal number, take the 5 major conference winners and throw in the top 3 at-large teams.
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:17 am to NeverToYield
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there is simply no way we'll ever have a 16 team playoff
and yet DII does it.
I'm not a fan. I see no value in it because I think it lessens the regular season quite a bit, but there will always be support for it as a money grab and may eventually happen. I do think the SEC and B1G will be against it because our regular season is far more valuable than anyone else's
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:20 am to Farmer1906
Understand that it is possible for a 10-2 might get in that shouldn't but the positives outweigh the negatives considering there are 120+ teams.
And byes suck
And byes suck
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:24 am to Farmer1906
4>6
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:28 am to cattus
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And byes suck
Agreed. Giving the top 2 teams a bye week would put them at an extreme advantage. Then you start hearing complaints about who gets ranked 3rd instead of 2nd.
FSU complained about getting dropped this year, but it wasn't terrible because as long as you're in the top 4, it's all pretty much the same aside from matchups. If you get dropped to three under a format with byes, you're looking at a much, much tougher road.
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