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So can somebody explain how the 4 non Playoff bowls work?
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:12 pm
The Orange, Peach, Fiesta, and Cotton.
Is it the top teams 5-12 or are there certain criteria that teams like Boise State, or Georgia Tech (if they lose to FSU and aren't in the top 12) make these bowls automatically like the old BCS?
Is it the top teams 5-12 or are there certain criteria that teams like Boise State, or Georgia Tech (if they lose to FSU and aren't in the top 12) make these bowls automatically like the old BCS?
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:12 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
This is something that has perplexed me as well. Hasn't really been elaborated on all that well.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:14 pm to FourThreeForty
Some of our fans think we are going to the Orange Bowl, while other say that we CAN'T go b/c its reserved for an ACC team no matter what (even if they aren't in the Playoff or ranked in the top 12)
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:14 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Hell, how do the playoff bowls work? If someone wins the Rose Bowl in the first round then loses the NC, are they Rose Bowl champions? Does it count as two bowl appearances? It's all very confusing.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:15 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
I THINK (could definitely be wrong) that the committee will also be the driving force behind placing teams in those 4, based on their rankings.
After the 2 semifinals + 4 access bowls...then it just goes down to the bowls and schools working it out like the past.
After the 2 semifinals + 4 access bowls...then it just goes down to the bowls and schools working it out like the past.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:15 pm to CrimsonCrusade
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If someone wins the Rose Bowl in the first round then loses the NC, are they Rose Bowl champions? Does it count as two bowl appearances?
that's actually a really good question. hadn't even thought about that
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:15 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
My understanding is the committee with set the matchups for those games, too, based on the same factors they used to select the four playoff participants.
In short, they will decide which teams will play where in the non-playoff bowls.
In short, they will decide which teams will play where in the non-playoff bowls.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:18 pm to CrimsonCrusade
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If someone wins the Rose Bowl in the first round then loses the NC, are they Rose Bowl champions?
why wouldn't they be?
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:19 pm to NeverToYield
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why wouldn't they be?
i think the question is interesting, though. say a team wins first playoff game and loses in the title game. do they the have one loss and one win added to their overall bowl record? or is the national title game a separate entity altogether?
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:20 pm to CrimsonCrusade
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Does it count as two bowl appearances?
Yes, they are all considered bowl games.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:21 pm to lsufball19
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say a team wins first playoff game and loses in the title game.
ok i'm with ya
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do they the have one loss and one win added to their overall bowl record?
why wouldn't they?
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or is the national title game a separate entity altogether?
it's simply a second bowl game.
The NCG winner can claim they are rose (for example) bowl champions and national champions. The NCG loser can claim they are sugar bowl champions.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:22 pm to Master of Sinanju
The stats in 10 years will be insane. Such in such coach has 13 bowl appearances in 10 years.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:22 pm to lsufball19
Hmmm. These are good questions
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:27 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Orange Bowl takes the ACC Champion or top ranked available ACC team and places them against the top ranked available SEC/Big Ten/Notre Dame. MSU in the Orange Bowl talk was when they were #4 and hadn't gotten their asses kicked by Ole Miss. If State would not have been #4, they would have been #5 - the top available SEC/B1G team. The Orange Bowl ship has sailed.
Georgia Tech will either be the ACC Champion or the top ranked available ACC team, so they are pretty much there.
Mississippi State dropped below two Big Ten teams (Ohio State and Michigan State). The Orange Bowl doesn't want a repeat team so Michigan State is pretty much slotted here, even if Ohio State doesn't get into the Playoff.
The top non Power 5 champion gets a bid to an available spot. That team is Boise State. They could go to the Peach, Cotton or Fiesta Bowl. It makes sense for the Fiesta (geographical considerations) but is not guaranteed. Boise opened the season in Atlanta so I doubt the Peach gets them.
As far as Mississippi State, there are three possibilities with the Orange Bowl out of the question.
Peach
Cotton
Fiesta
Assuming the Fiesta has Boise State, they are probably going to take Arizona or Baylor. So MSU is likely headed to the Peach vs. Ohio State or the Cotton vs. Kansas State or Wisconsin. The last spot in the New Years Six bowls is up for grabs. I personally think it will be Ole Miss.
This is how I think those four will shake out:
Fiesta: Arizona vs. Boise State
Cotton: Ole Miss vs. Baylor
Peach: MSU vs. Ohio State
Orange: Georgia Tech vs. Michigan State
Now, if both Wisconsin and Missouri pull the upsets, Ole Miss is probably out - and will be put up against Georgia in consideration for the Citrus Bowl.
Georgia Tech will either be the ACC Champion or the top ranked available ACC team, so they are pretty much there.
Mississippi State dropped below two Big Ten teams (Ohio State and Michigan State). The Orange Bowl doesn't want a repeat team so Michigan State is pretty much slotted here, even if Ohio State doesn't get into the Playoff.
The top non Power 5 champion gets a bid to an available spot. That team is Boise State. They could go to the Peach, Cotton or Fiesta Bowl. It makes sense for the Fiesta (geographical considerations) but is not guaranteed. Boise opened the season in Atlanta so I doubt the Peach gets them.
As far as Mississippi State, there are three possibilities with the Orange Bowl out of the question.
Peach
Cotton
Fiesta
Assuming the Fiesta has Boise State, they are probably going to take Arizona or Baylor. So MSU is likely headed to the Peach vs. Ohio State or the Cotton vs. Kansas State or Wisconsin. The last spot in the New Years Six bowls is up for grabs. I personally think it will be Ole Miss.
This is how I think those four will shake out:
Fiesta: Arizona vs. Boise State
Cotton: Ole Miss vs. Baylor
Peach: MSU vs. Ohio State
Orange: Georgia Tech vs. Michigan State
Now, if both Wisconsin and Missouri pull the upsets, Ole Miss is probably out - and will be put up against Georgia in consideration for the Citrus Bowl.
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:31 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Short answer: top 10 plus Boise and GA Tech get playoff rotation bowls.
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