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LSU is your defense better than last years

Posted on 8/31/14 at 11:05 pm
Posted by justausedcarguy
Member since Aug 2014
5642 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 11:05 pm
Noticed a lot of young guys but they stepped it up the second half.
Posted by Jma313
Member since Aug 2010
5157 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 11:06 pm to
Well it's more capable to score points than the offense probably
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40798 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 11:06 pm to
Secondary is, lb about the same, dl not as good. About the same overall.
Posted by graychef
Member since Jun 2008
28355 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 11:07 pm to
Too early to tell. But it's not worse. The DBs are lights out. If some depth at DL can be attained, it will be a better defense.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32504 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 11:07 pm to
Secondary is for sure, Front 7 not after the first game but we will see..


And MSU fans? 20+ years we have kicked the shite outta ya! won't change this year..
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8512 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 11:10 pm to
Secondary looked great. (Although this may have had more to do with Wisc's QB situation.) Their scheme will still beat A&M imo, and the linebackers look good. Still a great squad.
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13244 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 11:10 pm to
we will see in the next few games when we have more than 3 DTs available. We had to start rotating DE at DT vs Wisky, and that hurt us physically.

Jalen Mills is fit for a big year, he looked great at FS
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33963 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 11:11 pm to
Hard to tell. We were missing a couple of key players at CB and DT. Defense really stepped in up in the 2nd half, but that coincided with the mysterious disappearance of MGIII from the game.

Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
56316 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 11:14 pm to
Secondary is beastly

LBs are decent with Kwon Alexander being a stud

Dline needs some work
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68515 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 11:18 pm to
We wnt know about the defense till more than 1/3 of our DTs are available to play.

Also, Welter still sucks, hope we go to Beckwith.

DBs are likely best in country, they are sick.
Posted by BobBarker
Bompton
Member since Nov 2012
11660 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 11:28 pm to
Secondary is disgusting. One of the best we've had. Deep at every position.

LB's are better. Kwon may be the best player on our team period. Dude just makes tackles. Thanks for that one, Bama. Welter actually looked kinda good. Our depth at LB is really good too.

DL looked inconsistent. The DE's didn't get much pressure in the first half, but caused a lot of havoc in the second. Tashawn Bower and Danielle Hunter should be our starters IMO. The DT's didn't get penetration most of the time, but they didn't get blown off the line either, so that's good. Especially against a team like Wisconsin. They would have had a few sacks against an experienced QB who knew it was better to take a sack than throw a ball into no-man's land, rather than McEvoy.

Overall, I think this D will be one of the best in the country again.
Posted by DamnStrong1860
The Second City
Member since Oct 2012
3001 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 11:33 pm to
I dunno, free car wash?
Posted by ACTIGER2012
Member since Dec 2011
421 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 1:06 am to
D-Line was really bad in the first half of the game. Danielle Hunter had a particularly horrible first half but I expect him to improve. I thought Rasco played well. Lacatour is overrated and was getting pushed back almost every play. The linebackers made mental mistakes and were out of position often, and Welter just doesn't have what it takes to be an SEC MLB. The defensive backs are outstanding. Across the board we have tons of size, speed, and talent but we need to cut down on mental mistakes and getting caught out of position. Our D-line needs to toughen up. And Chavis needs to not call stunts that get our defense out of position, I think we are good enough to have success with a basic defense. Finally, we need one or more players to step up and be special on the defense..right now I'm thinking Jalen Mills will take that role.

We are equal with last year's defense right now but eventually we will be better.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 1:13 am to
Valentine will be cleared soon hopefully and will make an immediate impact on obvious running plays. Bain comes back. Herron will be back. QT will continue to heal to 100%. That's not our normal DL we saw against Wisconsin.. so I'm not too worried about it.
Posted by 41bengal
Da' Ville
Member since Jun 2009
2073 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 2:46 am to
Yes the defense settled down in the 2nd half. Alexander was more aggressive and played down hill more. 57 Godchuax held up and gave LSU some needed help we played QT,Laqcoutre and bowers came in some too and he is a DE. We will be fine with more games played and players coming back. MG and McEvoy was a handful at first but we figured them out.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45407 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 3:37 am to
About the same.

DL is average at best and capable of being truly awful at times. There are no standouts on our entire DL and not one player that opposing teams will have to scheme around. Rasco is okay, Hunter is unremarkable (no burst off line, cannot seem to use arms effectively but they look great), LaCouture is average, Thomas is a non-factor, Gilmore, Bain, Neal, and Herron are not ready for prime time, Johnson and Maclin are done, Bower is unremarkable, Godchaux shows flashes of promise but is very green. I'll let the stats speak for themselves: our DTs combined for 5 tackles, 0 TFL, 0 sacks, 0 hurries. Our DEs combined for 12 tackles, 1.5 TFL, 0 sacks, 0 hurries.

LBs are okay at best. Alexander is the only player capable of causing some problems; he is an above average player. If an offensive player makes contact with Welter he is out of the play, period; Welter cannot shed or avoid a block to save his life. Louis has fight and heart but struggles to make an impact. Beckwith, Riley, and Jones have yet to show out thought they have been playing for over a year now, two years in Jones' case.

DBs are good. White and Robinson are physical and fast with skills. Both are two of the better CBs in the SEC. Collins seems to have elevated his game; he played very well against Wisconsin and has the size and speed to be a factor. Mills has always been a good player and really seems to be playing with some fire right now. Martin is average on his best days. Thomas is flashing some skills.

This is a very blue collar defense that will play well as a unit/committee if it is successful. There are no stars. There is no Glenn Dorsey, no Tyson Jackson, no Kevin Minter, no Kelvin Sheppard, no Patrick Peterson, no Tyrann Mathieu, no Morris Claiborne, no Eric Reid, no Michael Brockers, no Kiki Mingo, no Sam Montgomery. It is a very average cast.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 3:48 am
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 3:42 am to
Secondary is great. And we didn't have RR.

Kwon is our best player on D. Period. He is a really really good LB. Welter still sucks. Beckwith can hold his ground in the middle way better than Welter, but the staff has a hard on for Welter and nobody understands it. All the "he knows the D" is a bunch of crap. Kwon is a 3 year starter. He knows the D.

Rasco looked good last night. I wasn't overly impressed with him last year, but I was impressed with him last night. Hunter is all bark with some bite, but not a lot. Has trouble dissecting some plays and he bites on fakes a good bit and gets turned around. But when he sees it happen, he makes the play and looks like nobody can stop him. I love his hustle and pursuit because he makes a lot of plays chasing down RBs laterally. But needs to be more consistent with his reads. Once he gets it all down, and I expect him to, he's gonna be a stud. Still a good player with the potential to be a great player and is just scratching the surface of his potential... Can't say that for a lot of guys. He has tremendous upside. And thinks he gets there or damn near it.

Our 2 best DTs might be a true freshman(Godchaux) and a RSFreshman that didn't play due to suspension (Bain). I was impressed with Godchaux #57. Held his own against a very experienced and disciplined Wisky OL. Sure he made some mistakes and what not, but he jumped off the TV and has obvious talent. Dude is a true freshman coming off ACL surgery and 300lbs but is built like a brick house and has very little fat on him. He's gonna be a monster. Was a DE in high school and has that athleticism. And Bain is an outstanding athlete as well. 6'4 310lbs and can dunk. That's ridiculous. We missed him. He was my breakout player for this season and still think he will be.

Secondary is our consistent group this year, along with Kwon. But I think our front 7, especially DTs, improve as the season goes on and young guys gain experience. We are most def a young team, but it's also a very talented young team. My hey will get better each week.

When it's all said and done, yes I think they will be better than last years group. Pretty much same team with more experience. Oh and Wisky is legit. Anyone in the SEC would struggle against Melvin Gordon running the ball. He's as good as advertised, most likely better.
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
21286 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 6:45 am to
hard to say, because bain, heron and robinson didn't play. if those guy's aren't suspended, for the whole season, this defense could be very good.
This post was edited on 9/1/14 at 6:54 am
Posted by BayouTiga
Louisana
Member since Jan 2012
3274 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:03 am to
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Noticed a lot of young guys but they stepped it up the second half.
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Two key players did not play, first game of season, moments of extremely good play, moments of very poor play. No one who really understands the game can say at this point, but hopeful for improvement vs. last years piss poor showing.

Posted by floyd13
New Orleans Uptown
Member since Sep 2010
1763 posts
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:54 am to
Yes
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