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re: Why does University of Alabama have so many out of state students?

Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:20 pm to
Posted by Jefferson Davis
Plank Road
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:20 pm to
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I hope they do.


They absolutely will as it's a major component of F. King Alexander's plans for the university. I think it's great.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:31 pm to
Contrary to the bullshite that gets posted on here so much by the uga fans, a vast majority of the Atlanta kids that go to Bama or AU do so because they want to experience something different than high school friends. Out of the 15 or so kids from my graduating class, every one of them except me could have gotten into UGA. I didn't apply to any Georgia schools because I wanted to be well away from home. And my reason for going to AU was chasing a girl like a dumbass, who ended up going to Clemson which was tougher to get into. It's just a thing around Atlanta that a portion of kids are drawn to the two main Alabama schools. They want to be far enough away from the parents to be independent, but close enough to go home when they want. Athens is a fun town, but no way would I have chosen it over Auburn, and I'm sure the Atlanta area Bama kids would say the same thing. All three campuses offer different things that resonate with certain kids.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:37 pm to
The kids that want to go to UGA and can't get in go to GSU or Truitt to get their grades up.
Posted by Big Wooly Mammoth
Member since Apr 2013
214 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:43 pm to
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He had a 26 on his ACT.

Told me UA offered him a full ride. I was sort of shocked. Maybe not legit, doesn't seem like it, but damn.


Complete BS. I made a 27 and didn't get shite

27 is the lowest ACT you can get for a scholarship but you have to have a 3.5 too and I only had a 3.1

ETA: I was out of state btw
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:56 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:44 pm to
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Like a New Orleans whore Bama is cheap easy and fun, and you are screwed in the end


But Alabama is a superior university to LSU.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:51 pm to
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NorthGwinnettTiger


Same story with a lot of my good friends here from Atlanta. Sure some of them were too dumb to get into UGA, but a good amount of them just never wanted to.

The only in-state school I applied to was Vandy. The thought of attending any of the other big Tennessee schools never entered my mind.

I could've gone to Ole Miss if I wanted a repeat of my high school years.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:01 pm to
I love Athens. I also love Buckhead, but that doesn't mean I want to live there. Certain places just feel like home, and there is a significant portion of Atlanta kids that just migrate towards AU and UA. There's a reason there is the saying around here..."Screw it, go to Truitt". Kids that want to go to UGA go to community college and transfer in.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:04 pm to
Yeah, the back up stuff is mostly bs for the vast majority and really a more recent thing than anything as a result of hope escalating standards.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7662 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:08 pm to
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Then he is lying to you. LINK They've gotten a bit more lax since I enrolled in 2010, but it still requires a 27 to get a little bit of money. A 30-31 and 3.5 GPA to get 2/3rds


A friend of mine got a 29 on his ACT and received a full ride with a 3.8 GPA.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36749 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:10 pm to
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As opposed to the poor, stupid people that go LSU



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But Alabama is a superior university to LSU.


Posted by ATLabama
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:10 pm to
From Atlanta. Applied, and got into UGA, Auburn, Clemson, Virginia Tech, Colorado, Ole Miss, and FSU. Didn't get into SMU and Vandy.

I had no tie to any school except FSU, where my parents both went, but didn't really consider it as I didn't "jive" with the south florida crowd there.

I toured every school I mentioned, and absolutely loved Alabama, Ole Miss, and SMU. I was pretty indifferent with Auburn and Clemson, and didn't particularly like Colorado, VT, and UGA. Don't get me wrong, Athens is the best college town in the country, but I didn't feel like going to high school all over again.

So, it really came down to Alabama and Ole Miss. At the time (2005), neither team was a national football power, so that had nothing to do with my decision. Alabama had better academics, a BEAUTIFUL campus and tour, and their recruiting efforts were almost relentless. In the end, I picked Alabama and it was the best decision of my life. Being from out-of-state, I didn't feel so different as there were so many kids from other big cities like Nashville, Dallas, Houston, and Charlotte. It was a great mix of kids and really helps create a diverse network early on. I know some schools prefer to "keep their own," but I loved meeting kids from different, cool places.

I really enjoyed visiting and making friends with former LSU and Mississippi State grads in law school--but those student bodies are the antithesis of diverse. I feel like other schools to grow their "reach" should put the emphasis Alabama has on getting OOS kids. It brings in added revenue, spreads your alumni base, and over the years, creates a large professional network.

I'll give kudos to Ole Miss, they do a great job of OOS recruiting as well and was really a close second when choosing a school.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:23 pm to
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Huh? Last I checked a 30 on your ACT is required for some scholarship money and a 32 for in-state tuition.


Seriously?
Posted by Big Wooly Mammoth
Member since Apr 2013
214 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:28 pm to
Out of State Scholarships

3.5 and 27 are the requirements for the lowest Out of State scholarships. Not as easy as many of the people on here seem to think.
Posted by Jefferson Davis
Plank Road
Member since Nov 2011
5960 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:33 pm to
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I feel like other schools to grow their "reach" should put the emphasis Alabama has on getting OOS kids. It brings in added revenue, spreads your alumni base, and over the years, creates a large professional network.


LSU is using Alabama as its model for OOS student recruiting. Our new president has said so from day one.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
10188 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:41 pm to
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President F. King Alexander said the university is stepping up its out-of-state recruiting efforts next year, especially in areas such as Alabama, South Carolina, Arkansas, Tennessee and Texas, by adding more on-the-ground recruiters.


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Asked about LSU’s out-of-state numbers in comparison to its peer institutions, flagship state schools in other states, Kurpius said all universities have different obstacles, and operate on different models.

Some comparisons: University of Alabama this fall has 43 percent of their undergraduate population hailing from outside the state.

“They’re giving significant scholarships and they have different admission standards than LSU,” Kurpius said of Alabama. “We’re held to tighter admission standards by the (Louisiana) Board of Regents, (more) than most flagships, nationally,” he said.

“The positive outcome of that, we have a higher performing class coming in that is more likely to stay here and graduate,” Kurpius said. “I expect next year, we are going to continue our path on increasing our graduation rate and that’s a good thing.”

And Ohio State University, had 14.8 percent of its fall 2013 undergraduate enrollment made up of students coming from outside of Ohio and produced a record high 9.5 percent increase between 2012 and 2013. Last year, OSU brought in 7,793 students from outside the state and this fall, the university grew its out-of-state student population to 8,537.

University of Texas, which has an undergraduate enrollment of 39,995, did grow its out-of-state population by nearly two percent from 2012 to 2013, but the percentages remain low. UT brought in 1,927 students from outside of Texas in fall 2013.


LINK
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 10:44 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:50 pm to
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3.5 and 27 are the requirements for the lowest Out of State scholarships. Not as easy as many of the people on here seem to think.


I don't know if that is impressive or not since I had a 4.1 and a 34 on my ACT.

Just kidding, good to see us southern schools starting to take the cream of the crop.
Posted by Crimson G
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2013
1353 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:42 pm to
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As for UGA, UF, and UTexas , it's much harder to get into these schools.


In comparison to Bama?

The data doesn't show that. In 2013, Bama's acceptance rate was 57% to Georgia's 55%.

It always amazes me how some UGA people try to include themselves in the same group as the likes of Florida and Texas. You are not on their level.
Posted by Big Wooly Mammoth
Member since Apr 2013
214 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:46 pm to
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Bama's acceptance rate was 57% to Georgia's 55%.


Dude, it definitely is harder to get into Georgia. Some of that probably has to do with people like me who didn't even bother applying because I knew I wouldn't get in.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:49 pm to
How accurate are those acceptance rates?
Posted by TIEF
Member since Jul 2007
1113 posts
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:50 pm to
I was an oos student at LSU 10 years ago or so and I think in-state prices now are about the same as my oos prices were as a freshman.

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I really enjoyed visiting and making friends with former LSU and Mississippi State grads in law school--but those student bodies are the antithesis of diverse


You're right. At LSU half the students were from BR or NOLA. Felt like a big H.S.

This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 11:56 pm
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