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re: ESPN ranks Alabama's RBs as the best position group in America

Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:37 pm to
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25174 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:37 pm to
Alabama returns the best proven back field in the SEC. Just ahead of South Carolina
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 12:12 am to
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Let's see how good the gumps running backs are when their not running behind a NFL line that they paid millions to! Why u think their players don't leave early, they make more at Bamma than they would in the NFL especially with the new rookie pay scale!! PayRollTide!!!!! LSU got this! Can't wait to run to another NC!!



Good lord, where are all these overenthusiastic dumbfricks coming from lately? They're covering every major fanbase. LSU ones. Auburn ones. Tennessee ones. Bama ones. Mizzou ones. Arkansas ones. Even a UGA one or two. Did high-school drop-out season just start or something?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 1:33 am to
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Now that a less arbitrary and more valid methodology has been implemented and shows Hill's stats better than Yeldon's, will you concede your digression was rather, how shall we say, premature?


I mean, you can juke stats however you want, broseph. Yeldon ran for 120+ against 5 SEC west opponents. Hill did against 3. Hill disappeared in losses to 2 SEC West opponents. Yeldon ran for 141 and a TD in Bama's loss. See? Just thought "leagues better" should be looked at closer.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 5:22 am to
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I mean, you can juke stats however you want, broseph. Yeldon ran for 120+ against 5 SEC west opponents. Hill did against 3. Hill disappeared in losses to 2 SEC West opponents. Yeldon ran for 141 and a TD in Bama's loss. See? Just thought "leagues better" should be looked at closer.


Hill:
Against top-25 teams: 5.81 ypc, 52 att 4 TD
Road games: 6.01 ypc, 7 TD
Home games: 7.67 ypc, 9 TD
vs Winning teams: 6.20 ypc, 10 TD
1st half of games: 6.99 ypc, 10 TD
2nd half of games: 6.79 ypc, 6 TD
Winning by 15+: No stats (Magee got those carries, 5 games)
4th quarter: 6.39 ypc, 3 TD, 38 attempts

Yeldon:
Against top-25 teams: 5.32 ypc, 93 att 5 TD
Road games: 5.77 ypc, 6 TD
Home games: 6.27 ypc, 8 TD
vs Winning teams: 5.7 ypc, 7 TD
1st half of games: 5.32 ypc, 8 TD
2nd half of games: 6.71 ypc, 6 TD
Winning by 15+: 7.27 ypc, 4 TD, 217 yards
4th quarter: 4.87 ypc, 1 TD, 47 attempts

Pretty obvious that Hill was much better. I don't even have to mention fumbling problems. Alabama has the better RBs this season, but last season, it wasn't close.
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 5:23 am
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 5:26 am to
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Pretty obvious that Hill was much better. I don't even have to mention fumbling problems. Alabama has the better RBs this season, but last season, it wasn't close.





ETA: For the record, I don't disagree with you bmy. 2013 Hill > 2013 Yeldon, but 2012 Yeldon > 2012 Hill. So a push overall. But I'm laughing at your "wasn't close" notion when it was obvious LSU's OL did a much better job than Bama's, and on top of that LSU's passing game averaged more yards per attempt than Bama's.
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 5:28 am
Posted by ErnestTBassmaster
Bird Whistle, Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
2583 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 5:37 am to
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BowlJackson
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They had Alabama's offensive line as the best position group before last season and we all saw how that worked out

Link?
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 5:38 am to
In case anyone wants the information, Hill played against, on average, better rush defenses:

VT: 10th
A&M: 111th
CSU: 30th
Ole Miss: 52nd
GSU: 112th
UK: 94th
Arky: 79th
UT: 101st
LSU: 36th
MSST: 38th
Auburn: 63rd
OU: 24th
Average Run Defense Yeldon faced: 62.5


TCU: 21st* (Jeremy Hill did not play vs TCU, so they will be left out of the average)
UAB: 110th
Kent State: 95th
Auburn: 63rd
UGA: 43rd
MSST: 38th
Florida: 33rd
Ole Miss: 52nd
Bama: 7th
A&M: 111th
Arky: 79th
Iowa: 19th
Average Run Defense Hill faced: 59.1
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 5:41 am to
LSU 36
Bama 7

111? How many teams are there? j/k
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10409 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 7:03 am to
No mention of Tenpenny? Or is he for scout team purposes only?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 5/2/14 at 7:27 am to
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For the record, I don't disagree with you bmy. 2013 Hill > 2013 Yeldon,
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But I'm laughing at your "wasn't close" notion


Hill was absolutely better, "wasnt close" etc... is an overstatement
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 7:32 am to
Fournette > Henry, yeldon
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 7:33 am to
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No mention of Tenpenny? Or is he for scout team purposes only?


Thumper. Not really much else besides that. Doesn't seem to have vision/instincts the really good backs have.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12879 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:12 am to
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Fournette > Henry, yeldon

Based on? You've seen him run a lot in college. Cool.

Why stop there, really? Fournette > Barry Sanders.
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 8:13 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86556 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:13 am to
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Alabama returns the best proven back field in the SEC


false

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Just ahead of South Carolina


false
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86556 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:14 am to
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In case anyone wants the information, Hill played against, on average, better rush defenses


So out of 115+ teams in america, the average that yeldon faced was 3 places higher in the rankings than hill. Well that settles it then.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12879 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:14 am to
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WG_Dawg

Didn't we already establish UGA backs have injuries? Just saw on AJC.com that Gurley injured himself yesterday evening while working out.
Posted by CoffeeAg
Sherman Oaks, CA
Member since Apr 2014
633 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:16 am to
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A&M: 111th



Absolutely pathetic, Ags.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86556 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:23 am to
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Didn't we already establish UGA backs have injuries?


No, the rant parrots continue to believe that false notion. Neither of our backs are "injury prone".

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Just saw on AJC.com that Gurley injured himself yesterday evening while working out


First I've heard, and I assure you if it was anything serious it would be all over the internet.
Posted by SEC_ZOU
Member since Apr 2014
4 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:27 am to
How can Georgia rb's not even be in the top 10? As far as I'm concerned they're just as good as bamas. I know bama has 3 guys, but I think gurley>Yeldon and Marshall = Henry. And Michel coming in too
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86556 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 8:28 am to
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