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Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:02 am to the808bass
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:02 am to the808bass
Dude i never got the Haith hiring, I was at work and was like who the frick is Frank Haith.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:20 am to wstorie44
That's what everyone said.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 1:24 am to the808bass
Lol its sad when a bball fan has to google there new coach.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 8:07 am to wstorie44
Yep that is how I was too. I hope we at least know who the next guys is.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 8:30 am to everytrueson
Going to be a defining moment in Alden's choice.
If he goes after and get Marshall, perhaps Howland, Alden is saying he's committed to getting to Final Four.
If he goes after and gets somebody like Donnie Tyndall, then it's obvious we are now a football school happy to work at finishing 3rd in basketball in the SEC.
If he goes after and get Marshall, perhaps Howland, Alden is saying he's committed to getting to Final Four.
If he goes after and gets somebody like Donnie Tyndall, then it's obvious we are now a football school happy to work at finishing 3rd in basketball in the SEC.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:23 am to everytrueson
So if conventional wisdom is that Marshall is holding out for a blue blood program, how many of those will open up in the near future. Mind you, Marshall himself is already 51.
UCLA (if they're still considered that) - Alford(49) isn't going anywhere soon.
Kentucky - Calipari(55) isn't leaving unless for NBA.
UNC - Williams(63) is getting up there.
Duke - Coach K(67) is up there too.
After that, I don't know if I consider them blue bloods, but:
UConn - Ollie(41) is there for a long time.
UF - Donovan(48) is younger than Marshall.
Louisville - Pitino(61) is starting to get up there.
Syracuse - Boheim(69) is already up there.
Indiana - Crean(48) is young and most IU fans seem happy.
Michigan State - Izzo(59) isn't leaving for a while.
Michigan - Beilin (61) still has a number of years ahead of him.
Ohio State - Matta(46) is younger than Marshall as long as he produces.
kU - Self(51).
So it would seem the only opportunities he is waiting for are limited to UNC, Duke and Syracuse if you ask me. Something tells me UNC will first look for someone within that Dean Smith coaching tree and I don't think those limbs reach to Marshall. There are plenty of Dean Smith descendants in the NBA and college basketball.
I think the same is true of Duke. Like UNC, I think Duke thinks too much of themselves to go outside of their "blue blood" line. I think a better match is an Amaker from Harvard, or Brey from Notre Dame or Dawkins at Stanford...not a school from the midwest. Not to mention those alrady at Duke.
Syracuse? Boheim is the oldest. Not sure who all falls under his tree, but with so many years under his belt, surely there are a lot.
Maybe those schools don't stay within their blood lines, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they do. Especially if they feel 2 coaches aren't separated by much. So not sure what job Marshall would be waiting for. Syracuse would seem most likely.
UCLA (if they're still considered that) - Alford(49) isn't going anywhere soon.
Kentucky - Calipari(55) isn't leaving unless for NBA.
UNC - Williams(63) is getting up there.
Duke - Coach K(67) is up there too.
After that, I don't know if I consider them blue bloods, but:
UConn - Ollie(41) is there for a long time.
UF - Donovan(48) is younger than Marshall.
Louisville - Pitino(61) is starting to get up there.
Syracuse - Boheim(69) is already up there.
Indiana - Crean(48) is young and most IU fans seem happy.
Michigan State - Izzo(59) isn't leaving for a while.
Michigan - Beilin (61) still has a number of years ahead of him.
Ohio State - Matta(46) is younger than Marshall as long as he produces.
kU - Self(51).
So it would seem the only opportunities he is waiting for are limited to UNC, Duke and Syracuse if you ask me. Something tells me UNC will first look for someone within that Dean Smith coaching tree and I don't think those limbs reach to Marshall. There are plenty of Dean Smith descendants in the NBA and college basketball.
I think the same is true of Duke. Like UNC, I think Duke thinks too much of themselves to go outside of their "blue blood" line. I think a better match is an Amaker from Harvard, or Brey from Notre Dame or Dawkins at Stanford...not a school from the midwest. Not to mention those alrady at Duke.
Syracuse? Boheim is the oldest. Not sure who all falls under his tree, but with so many years under his belt, surely there are a lot.
Maybe those schools don't stay within their blood lines, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they do. Especially if they feel 2 coaches aren't separated by much. So not sure what job Marshall would be waiting for. Syracuse would seem most likely.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:37 am to reedus23
Great post. I have a feeling that Marshall ends up at Mizzou. I am not sure why, but I just think it will happen.
Probably wrong, but oh well.
Probably wrong, but oh well.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:39 am to reedus23
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So not sure what job Marshall would be waiting for. Syracuse would seem most likely.
If he's really holding out for a blue blood, I would think Indiana is the most likely. Crean will be under some pressure next year.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:42 am to the808bass
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If he's really holding out for a blue blood, I would think Indiana is the most likely. Crean will be under some pressure next year.
He very well might be, but I have a lot of friends from Indiana that still live there and they, at least, still like Crean. If they continue to struggle, I could see that though.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 10:02 am
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:01 am to reedus23
So, continuing to do a sales job on myself, pulled up on college basketball reference and sorted by wins trying to figure out what is considered a blue blood and might have a coaching job open up. Not all are major schools/conferences. There are a handful of the Penn's and Western Kentucky's of the world. Mizzou is 34 all time.
Beyond those talked about above, the only other team that made me go hmmmm is the Texas job. Hardly consider them a blue blood either, but they are above Mizzou in wins. Barnes is rumored to be on the hot seat from time to time.
Beyond those talked about above, the only other team that made me go hmmmm is the Texas job. Hardly consider them a blue blood either, but they are above Mizzou in wins. Barnes is rumored to be on the hot seat from time to time.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:38 am to reedus23
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:42 am to reedus23
I can tell I'm not going to get shite done at work this week. Hope we get a new coach soon.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:42 am to reedus23
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Barnes is rumored to be on the hot seat from time to time.
With a new AD, I'd guess Barnes has two years to do something. Anything. Though they were kinda in the hunt for the conference title this year I think.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:56 am to reedus23
That was a good article. The parts by the Wichita beat writer were encouraging.
Read Burwell's column. I thought his rumor about Haith and the NCAA investigation was interesting. Burwell framed that as Haith not trusting Alden. But I wonder if Alden didn't ask Haith some questions about the NCAA in their initial interview that Haith was less than truthful about. Just random thoughts.
Read Burwell's column. I thought his rumor about Haith and the NCAA investigation was interesting. Burwell framed that as Haith not trusting Alden. But I wonder if Alden didn't ask Haith some questions about the NCAA in their initial interview that Haith was less than truthful about. Just random thoughts.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 10:56 am
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:31 am to the808bass
Burwell is such a negative Nancy. I'm sure Alden wasn't happy at all after finding out about the Miami deal. Would hope he was upset, especially if Haith was less than forthcoming. Probably set a bad tone early between coach and AD. But what could be done at that point unless and until the NCAA finished their investigation. Turn around and fire a coach right after hiring him without any results in yet from the investigation?
I also suspect that Haith thought he could leverage Alden for another raise/extension and instead of being told ok, he probably got the same speech that GP got a year ago. Given the lack of history at Mizzou and the fear that he wouldn't be successful next year led to him bolting. Call it not trusting Alden or call it Haith giving Alden plenty of reasons to say your job isn't secure, I think Haith brought that upon himself.
I also suspect that Haith thought he could leverage Alden for another raise/extension and instead of being told ok, he probably got the same speech that GP got a year ago. Given the lack of history at Mizzou and the fear that he wouldn't be successful next year led to him bolting. Call it not trusting Alden or call it Haith giving Alden plenty of reasons to say your job isn't secure, I think Haith brought that upon himself.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:16 pm to KCMIZSEC
quote:Me too, but then you are going to have nothing to blame that work thing on
Hope we get a new coach soon.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:17 pm to MIZ_COU
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Jeff Borzello ?@jeffborzello 4m
Tim Fuller is among the candidates at Florida A&M, per sources. Was an assistant at Missouri under Frank Haith.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 12:18 pm to reedus23
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Dave Matter ?@Dave_Matter 1m
If Fuller lands a HC job, could affect Mizzou's two signees (Gant & Wright) but MU still trying to keep them on board, Tibaldi especially
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