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re: moral equivalency? hunh vs flopping
Posted on 3/8/14 at 3:43 pm to arrakis
Posted on 3/8/14 at 3:43 pm to arrakis
quote:how do you an define an injury? is a player with his breath knocked out injured? he certainly cant play the next play, but will likely be fine shortly. should he make efforts to get off the field to help the offense maintain its pace? how about guy who is dizzy? is he just tired from too many snaps in row, is he having a heat stroke, or just needs gatorade? are you qualified to judge that? is the player? i would say straight up faking an injury is unethical, but degree of injury is a gray area. and if you go by the hunh set's opinion, if you can, do it.
Let's start with knowledge of the rules and mechanics and see if helps satisfy your questions about my competence: You stated, earlier in the thread, that feigning an injury (flopping) is within the current rules of the game. Would you say feigning an injury to stop the clock meets the criteria of an unfair act?
quote:games, teams, dates, which official were you, calls you made please? only fair. the rules of football are published, anyone can look them up.
Mostly JUCO and occasionally Div II.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 3:49 pm
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Posted on 3/8/14 at 3:51 pm to narddogg81
quote:If a player has to have the game stopped for them to get off the field.
how do you an define an injury?
Since the coaches that are whining about the HUNH are all about player safety then they should have no problem with that player sitting and being checked out for the rest of that drive to make sure they are healthy enough to go back in. It solves both problems.
This post was edited on 3/8/14 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 3/8/14 at 4:06 pm to narddogg81
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how do you an define an injury? is a player with his breath knocked out injured? he certainly cant play the next play, but will likely be fine shortly. should he make efforts to get off the field to help the offense maintain its pace?
Once again, you change the topic. Here is your exact quote:
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i believe its more accurate to say flopping is against the ethics of the rules and hunh is against the spirit of the game, ie the game is the interaction between the play called on offense and the defensive play called to counter. what makes football great is that it operates on multiple levels. a stated goal of the hunh is to prevent ds from getting in plays, or at least the play the want. both are currently within the rules as they stand
So, the question remains...does flopping (feigning an injury) to stop the clock meet the criteria of an unfair act?
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games, teams, dates, which official were you, calls you made please? only fair. the rules of football are published, anyone can look them up.
...like I said, mostly JUCO and for 16 years. I worked a few years as a BJ, but mostly, and currently, HL.
"Calls I've made"?
What a dumbass question, but let's see. I've called Delay of game, Encroachment, Offside, Holding, BBW, Clipping, DPI, OPI, USC....is that enough or do you want me to list PF's as well? What's next, you want me to post a copy of my conference ID card and passport?
Posted on 3/8/14 at 4:07 pm to narddogg81
quote:still waiting. also, some youtube links to games you officiated should be available.
quote: Let's start with knowledge of the rules and mechanics and see if helps satisfy your questions about my competence: You stated, earlier in the thread, that feigning an injury (flopping) is within the current rules of the game. Would you say feigning an injury to stop the clock meets the criteria of an unfair act? how do you an define an injury? is a player with his breath knocked out injured? he certainly cant play the next play, but will likely be fine shortly. should he make efforts to get off the field to help the offense maintain its pace? how about guy who is dizzy? is he just tired from too many snaps in row, is he having a heat stroke, or just needs gatorade? are you qualified to judge that? is the player? i would say straight up faking an injury is unethical, but degree of injury is a gray area. and if you go by the hunh set's opinion, if you can, do it. quote: Mostly JUCO and occasionally Div II. games, teams, dates, which official were you, calls you made please? only fair. the rules of football are published, anyone can look them up.
Posted on 3/9/14 at 12:16 pm to narddogg81
quote:You forgot to ask for his phone number, breh.
games, teams, dates, which official were you, calls you made please? only fair. the rules of football are published, anyone can look them up.
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