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A question regarding Kiffin developing a QB.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:04 am
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:04 am
Especially for those who took the time to look over his whole career.
I don't think developing a scheme, gameday calls are going to be a problem. He worked under Petey and Chow, has NFL and CFB HC experience. My question is has he actually developed a QB, worked on technique, given him the tools to make 2 or 3 reads, know when to dump it off, run, or take the sack....and the myriad lessons a QB has to learn. With AJ gone I think we will all know late into next season if he can do this or not. But does anyone know if he can do this now, or is it a big unknown?
I don't think developing a scheme, gameday calls are going to be a problem. He worked under Petey and Chow, has NFL and CFB HC experience. My question is has he actually developed a QB, worked on technique, given him the tools to make 2 or 3 reads, know when to dump it off, run, or take the sack....and the myriad lessons a QB has to learn. With AJ gone I think we will all know late into next season if he can do this or not. But does anyone know if he can do this now, or is it a big unknown?
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:06 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Seems like people are worried that Saban/Kiffin may be a wrecking crew.
A lot of Kiffin threads from people who supposedly aren't worried.
A lot of Kiffin threads from people who supposedly aren't worried.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:08 am to Granny Panties
Yeah, if I read that OP that's the conclusion I would come to. Brilliant.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:09 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
I'm not a Kiffin fan obviously, but the objective side of me thinks Kiffin's biggest asset is how well he can coach a QB one on one. I think he is a great teacher of the QB position. He took Crompton in one year from a laughing stock to a very respectable SEC QB.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:12 am to psk_Vol
Who was it that actually worked with Crompton...Kiffin, Chaney, or Reaves?
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:14 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Kiffin basically is the QB coach
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:19 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Yea Kiffin was the de facto QB coach, and Chaney would work with the Oline in position groups at UT.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:19 am to psk_Vol
This has been my question. Who has he developed? He can't take credit for Leinart. I guess Compton. Oakland was a QB train wreck. Barkley just kept getting worse.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:19 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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My question is has he actually developed a QB, worked on technique, given him the tools to make 2 or 3 reads, know when to dump it off, run, or take the sack....and the myriad lessons a QB has to learn. With AJ gone I think we will all know late into next season if he can do this or not. But does anyone know if he can do this now
Well, rumor is that he is staying at the Tuscaloosa Holiday Inn Express.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:21 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
No one can answer this question??
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:23 am to Tigerdew
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Barkley just kept getting worse.
From this story after his last season
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"I could've had a bigger voice, given more input and taken it to the next level — pretty much as the owner of the company might … not just letting things happen," Barkley said.
"You put faith in your coaches, but when you see trends, things not happening the right way, and when the team rests on your shoulders, it's almost like you have to step up. You can't just let these things go by and watch them disintegrate in front of you. You've got to put the glue in somewhere. Looking back, I wish I'd been more forceful."
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:24 am to Tigerdew
I tried a couple of other times this week. Mostly got grannypants input. Oh well.....
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:35 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
I really have no idea what he did at SC. I just know first hand from a few players I knew at the time that the majority of the team really liked playing for CLK. they said he was a "really cool guy" who was obsessed with the concept of winning. They said he created a very relaxed yet professional environment. Obviously nobody associated with the program was happy with the way he left in the middle of the night.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 12:39 am to psk_Vol
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I knew at the time that the majority of the team really liked playing for CLK. they said he was a "really cool guy" who was obsessed with the concept of winning. They said he created a very relaxed yet professional environment.
He probably got that from Carroll. I've seen some shows and vids on his time at USC. But this is HC stuff. I guess we'll see by game 9 or 10 in the season to see if Kiffin can coach the QB's.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 1:01 am to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Basically, guys like Coker or Cornwell are already beasts.
Kiffin will make them a shite ton better. Cornwell especially. Soooo much upside, but a little raw. Kiffin will do a lot for him.
Kiffin will make them a shite ton better. Cornwell especially. Soooo much upside, but a little raw. Kiffin will do a lot for him.
Posted on 1/11/14 at 1:07 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Kiffin will make them a shite ton better. Cornwell especially. Soooo much upside, but a little raw. Kiffin will do a lot for him.
Well, okay, but why are you saying that?
Posted on 1/11/14 at 1:08 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Kiffin will do a lot for him
yeah, like Barkley.
Barkley started as a true freshman w/o Kiffin there.
And then never progressed and finally regressed ala Ron Pawlus.
Kiffin made Barkley worse and turned the best wide receiver in the country into a pile of after-thought dung.
Plus he literally started two QBs to start the year and alternated them which pissed off the entire team.
Did anyone watch USC's offense this year????
Before Coach O took over and gave the keys to Clay Helton?
Clay Helton is who Bama should have gone after. He transformed the Kiffin nightmare.
This post was edited on 1/11/14 at 1:10 am
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