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Some perspective on the Phil Robertson Issue

Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:24 am
Posted by jbond
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 4:24 am
Remember when the Dixie Chicks made an anti-Bush comment and conservative America issued a fatwa on their brand? Hundreds of country radio stations stopped playing their music, there were even demonstrations where people would get together and destroy their Dixie Chicks CD's.

In an interview Bush said:
quote:

The Dixie Chicks are free to speak their mind. They can say what they want to say ... they shouldn't have their feelings hurt just because some people don't want to buy their records when they speak out ... Freedom is a two-way street ... I don't really care what the Dixie Chicks said. I want to do what I think is right for the American people, and if some singers or Hollywood stars feel like speaking out, that's fine. That's the great thing about America.


I personally know some out there who boycotted them for being open about their beliefs who are now in disbelief that a TV Station would suspend Phil. I just feel there may be a bit of hypocrisy among some who are vilifying A&E right now. Thoughts?
Posted by chowell21
America
Member since Oct 2009
1480 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 5:18 am to
The Dixie chicks comments hit home more for most Americans because if the time that they were said, right after 9/11. Phil was also baited into making his comments, the DC comments seemed more unprovoked if I remember correctly. I understand what you're saying but this is how I see te two situations compared to one another
Posted by TideJoe
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/27/13 at 6:09 am to
There's a pretty big difference here when it comes "offended" parties though...... W obviously didn't care and said the can say whatever they want, it's a free country. The gay/les community is acting completely opposite. They want Duck Dynasty off the air and are trying to ruin them.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29119 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 6:31 am to
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Thoughts


While I understand your sentiment...

The difference in this is that the Dixie Chicks record label did not drop them. The people just boycotted their product.

Here, PR has been suspended for an honest opinion outside the show. Let the customers speak to whether or not he should still be profitable, not political correctness.

Honestly. If he had been on The Jesus Network and came out in support of Gays and they suspended him from the show for saying something in conflict with what the network believed? wouldn't people in the opposite side feel the same way?

And I know I'll catch flack for this.... 41 was a classy guy. Made big mistakes (huge) while in office but you have never seen that guy come out and bad mouth the people who did things like what the Dixie Chicks did.
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 6:32 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 7:08 am to
I still can't believe people care so much about it either way.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 7:09 am to
Yes, it is a great example of hypocrisy.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:38 am to
First of all, this is not an "issue," IMO Just celebrity gossip.

Secondly, OP really did compare apples to oranges with these two situations. And for the record, I didn't give a frick what the Dixie Chicks had to say then or now. If I heard something of theirs I liked, I listened to it.
Posted by Aux Arc
SW Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
2184 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:42 am to
I just read the complete GQ article. It's pretty good. I think it's clear that Phil feels bad for gays just like feeling sorry for a drug addict - they are lost in his mind. You may think that's stupid, but it's not gay bashing. The self appointed gay rights champions are becoming as bad as the race baiters of 10 years ago.
Posted by JimmyHDeridderhigh
Boosies free... Now what?
Member since Jul 2013
1171 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Thoughts?


This is America

BOR gives Phil freedom of speech.

He spoke, his employer didnt approve and they exercised their rights suspended him

Case closed
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 10:16 am
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 10:16 am to
i think part of the issue had to do with the fact that the dixie chicks were out of the country and spouted out their stuff during a concert if i'm not mistaken. i'm not saying it matters to me, i'm saying i think that's one reason it blew up like it did. there's a certain no-no people feel when americans go abroad and then talk negatively about america. see gwyneth paltrow and people's attitudes towards her comments regarding europe.


Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 10:51 am to
Gays run shite now. Us pussy frickers have to DWI.
Posted by aslavey
Chicago
Member since Nov 2013
1380 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 11:00 am to
The only real solution here is for A&E to give Phil a choice to either put aside his denial and come out as a poo jabber on the air during a special DD episode or retire from the series.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 11:59 am to
Thoughts. Better kept to yourself. That's my thought.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263209 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 1:58 pm to
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I personally know some out there who boycotted them for being open about their beliefs who are now in disbelief that a TV Station would suspend Phil


I didn't think anyone was silly enough to equate being "fired" to someone boycotting performances. I guess there are.

Boycotting Duck Dynasty would be the right thing to do for those offended by Phil's statement. I highly doubt those offended have ever watched that show though.
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 12/27/13 at 3:20 pm to
I think the real villain in this controversy is GQ. They baited Robertson into saying something he otherwise would never have revealed. It's clear what GQ execs think of the DD cast. If anybody was attempting to take down DD, it was GQ. There seem to be no consequences for them whatsoever.

BTW, why the hell did Robertson talk with them anyhow? That's like Weight Watchers interviewing Paula Deen? You know it's not going to end well.
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