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re: Name one reason that Jameis Winston should win the Heisman over JFF

Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:07 am to
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:07 am to
Winston can win the big games
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:07 am to
Winston has 75 less pass attempts this season, and 5 less TD passes. Give Winston 1/3 more stats basing it off attempts and he has 34 TDs, 3500 yards passing, and 10-11 INTs.

Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:10 am to
Winston is undefeated.
Winston has put up very strong stats that are close to JFF.
Winston has fewer ints.
Winston led his team to a big win in their key game of the year against Clemson.

I still think Johnny should win but objectively Winston can make a strong argument as well. I think Mariota and AJ have a tougher time though.
Posted by TlGERBLOOD
South Orange, NJ
Member since Nov 2011
514 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:13 am to
Jordan Lynch should win it.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7224 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:19 am to
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Johnny Football has 30+ TDs passing and put up 400+ yds total offense vs Bama. Thats all I have to say about that.

562 yards to be exact.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:20 am to
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he shouldnt if winstin was sec qb his stats and dak stats prolly be identic plus winstin plays no body think bout it be four u post stupid stuff hell bo wallace done better with less then winstin think bout it


muthafrickin roy
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:21 am to
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royDmercer



English, please...
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:21 am to
roy speaks nothing but english. CAN'T YOU READ?!
Posted by Maroon Flash
Florida
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:23 am to
Winston wouldn't have the stats he has if he was playing in the SEC.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:24 am to
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How many 4th quarters had Jameis even taken a snap?

His numbers would be so much better if his D wasn't good. Manziel is on the field throwing the ball down field late in games because his D is a liability


SO you think he would put up stats in the 4th quarter if FSU was in the SEC and not playing the Marylands, Boston Colleges, and Wake Forests, and Syracuses of the world.
Posted by SpartyGator
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Member since Oct 2011
75640 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:25 am to
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CAN'T YOU READ?!


nope
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23136 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:26 am to
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SO you think he would put up stats in the 4th quarter if FSU was in the SEC and not playing the Marylands, Boston Colleges, and Wake Forests, and Syracuses of the world.


Instead he'd be playing the Kentucky, MSUs, LSU's (this year), UGAs (this year), Vandy's of the world?

The SEC doesn't have a monopoly on D this year
This post was edited on 11/14/13 at 11:27 am
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:28 am to
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JFF has better stats has played tougher competition


Winston has a better QB rating and has faced 4 defenses ranked in the TOp third.

JFF has faced 2.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
35820 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:30 am to
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Winston wouldn't have the stats he has if he was playing in the SEC.


THIS
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23136 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:32 am to
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Winston wouldn't have the stats he has if he was playing in the SEC.


Just like Newton and Tebow didn't put up video game numbers in the SEC?

Posted by royDmercer
The Grenada
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:34 am to
good people umr
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44041 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:36 am to
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A&M has not lived up to their preseason hype.

Manziel's numbers are better this year than they were last.

A&M has the same record as it did last season, and the team is ranked higher than it was a year ago.

Apart from a natty, not sure what else can be done.

If that's the standard ... day-um.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Member since Dec 2010
35820 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:37 am to
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Just like Newton and Tebow didn't put up video game numbers in the SEC?


With a name like Buckeye, Im sure you think that OSU would dominate in the SEC playing the likes of Bama, Auburn, A&M, LSU, South Carolina, Georgia
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44041 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:39 am to
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Winston has a better QB rating

Serious question: Why do you keep quoting this singular rating?
It's a manufactured/calculated ESPN number.
Not sure why it's so meaningful to you.
There are oodles of other actual stats & numbers to crunch.

Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:47 am to
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Why do you keep quoting this singular rating?


It has always been a fairly important stat...and I am not talking about the ESPN QBR that stops at 100. I am talking about the rating system that has been in place for years. JW is second in the nation at like 195.

quote:

There are oodles of other actual stats & numbers to crunch.


Yyup. JW has less INTs than JFF.
This post was edited on 11/14/13 at 11:49 am
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