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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

Posted on 8/7/13 at 9:29 pm to
Posted by MikeHoncho
Anytown, USA
Member since Oct 2012
2769 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

Dallas is for the poors


You don't like the the prestige that I have in life. You don't like the notoriety. You detest the fact that I got more cars than most of you have friends! I got a big house on the big side of town I got life pretty much the way I want it! WOOOOOOO
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46543 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by SL Tiger
Houston
Member since May 2007
2224 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

Honestly what concerns you doesn't really matter.


You can't see past your delusion to be honest. You just want JFF to play. That's something that aTm will consider without your input.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4428 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:19 pm to
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By the time we play Rice the investigation will be going on three months.


Whatever the outcome of Manziel's drama, my first big wish of the upcoming season would be for ESPN to show everything the MOB does during halftime, and how the Ags react.

Or will the A&M AD come up with some excuse to prevent the band from coming to the game?
Posted by PacoPicopiedra
1 Ft. Above Sea Level
Member since Apr 2012
1161 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:23 pm to
From what I've heard the MOB already decided they weren't coming to College Station for this game.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:24 pm to


1000% true. Read the damn congressional testimony where they explain this fact in detail

It's inadmissiable in a court of law. Last time I checked, the NCAA isn't a court of law.



This.


All the idiots in the media talking about what the NCAA can "prove" are talking out of their asses.

There is no burden of proof. There are no rules of evidence.

The NCAA will review whatever they can gather, and make whatever determination they want.

If they're convinced he accepted cash, he's done. Plain and simple.

They don't have to "prove" anything.



Posted by WDE1980
Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
911 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:28 pm to
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If they're convinced he accepted cash, he's done. Plain and simple. They don't have to "prove" anything.


Wrong! They would be sued out the arse if they didn't have proof and deemed him ineligible. Which coloring book did you read this in?
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4428 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:29 pm to
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From what I've heard the MOB already decided they weren't coming to College Station for this game.



Ah well. Not really much of a loss, I guess -- the /b/ of halftimes when you get right down to it. But it could have had its moments.
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 10:32 pm
Posted by WDE1980
Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
911 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:33 pm to
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You realize this investigation will almost certainly be over by the start of the season, right? By the time we play Rice the investigation will be going on three months. Even Camgate didn't last that long.


Wrong... Try 11 months. The NCAA setup a remote office in Auburn to cut down on travel.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:36 pm to
the NCAA suspended an OSU Pitcher for contact with an agent while in high school but lacked sufficient evidence. The Pitcher appealed and had it overturned but only after missing part of the season. He later sued the NCAA for defamation of character and the NCAA settled for $750k. A college pitcher. You probably never even heard that story.

This one is all over the press. So what's the reigning Heisman winner worth? 100X that? The publicity may be a million times more. Neither the NCAA nor Texas A&M is going to punish anyone without sufficient evidence no matter how much you want them to.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:43 pm to
Being a lawyer for 20 years I think they were law books but I do try to avoid them when possible.
Posted by GeauxLSU8
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
4234 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:44 pm to
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quote:


Oh bull fricking shite. You and every other LSU fan alive would celebrate every loss sans-Manziel with a euphoric haze not seen since Bama 2011





Can't speak for anyone else, but I truly don't care. Yall don't carry that kind of weight for me. Honestly I'd rather them beat Bama.

We shut down JM last year, so we'll be able to hold our own at least.

But A&M is literally the only other game Bama has to worry about, so I'd like to see JM give them a loss, although I don't think it happens with JM or not.


+1
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:53 pm to
And you would sue them for what? Due process, (see prior post ) some type of discrimination, ( not state actors) his constitution right to play football,(maybe in Texas but no) slander and libel maybe, ( look at pubic figure exception and ny times vs Sullivan first) and truth is a defense and then there is that pesky discovery rule in civil litigation which would allow them to subpoena documents and depose everyone under oath.

Posted by Rebel89
Grenada, MS
Member since Aug 2013
69 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 10:55 pm to
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 10:57 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 11:00 pm to
The Auburn issue was a totally different deal and the tapes that were discussed and the tapes were FBI tapes of a investigation of a lobbying firm and casino owner that supposedly accidentally got tape conversations concerning the cam newton situation, bobby lowder, etc. almost every lawyer in Montgomery knows about them. What or what is actually on them we may never know almost of the targets either plead out or where acquitted and it looks like the investigation is done.
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6567 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

quote: He's not even the best player in the SEC in the last 5 years
quote: Well his numbers are better than Cam and Tebow, so name another 5?


WILL BITE.. should be fun.. didn't rank but these guys are just as good:

Cam Newton, Nick Fairley, A.J. Green, Matthew Stafford, Knowshon Moreno, Morris Claiborne, Patrick Peterson, Tyrann Mathieu, Barkevious Mingo, Kevin Minter, Tyson Jackson, Jeremy Hill, Cyrus Kouandijo, Don'ta Hightower, Courtney Upshaw, Rolando McClain, D.J. Fluker, Drew Kirkpatrick, Barret Jones, Janoris Jenkins, Jake Matthews, Jadaveon Clowney, Eric Berry, Matt Elam, Julio Jones, Marcus Lattimore, Alshon Jeffery, Tim Tebow, Percy Harvin, Brandon Spikes, Mark Barron, OK does that prove my point yet??
Posted by joe.liberst
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2012
1002 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 11:04 pm to
Never been seen before
Posted by MrSEC
Buckeye, AZ
Member since Sep 2012
1053 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 11:06 pm to
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The Auburn issue was a totally different deal and the tapes that were discussed and the tapes were FBI tapes of a investigation of a lobbying firm and casino owner that supposedly accidentally got tape conversations concerning the cam newton situation, bobby lowder, etc. almost every lawyer in Montgomery knows about them. What or what is actually on them we may never know almost of the targets either plead out or where acquitted and it looks like the investigation is done.


Did you breathe during any point while posting this?

Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17286 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 11:10 pm to
Those were the days...
Posted by tampajoe
Tampa
Member since Dec 2011
268 posts
Posted on 8/7/13 at 11:27 pm to
quote:

The Auburn issue was a totally different deal and the tapes that were discussed and the tapes were FBI tapes of a investigation of a lobbying firm and casino owner that supposedly accidentally got tape conversations concerning the cam newton situation, bobby lowder, etc. almost every lawyer in Montgomery knows about them. What or what is actually on them we may never know almost of the targets either plead out or where acquitted and it looks like the investigation is done.


Big difference is that the "tapes" were figments of someone's imagination. If they had existed, nothing would have kept the bammer lawyers from exposing them.

It was all made up - and a colossal fail.
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 11:28 pm
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