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How shitty of a father is Paul Manziel?
Posted on 7/30/13 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 7/30/13 at 9:05 pm
I don't care one bit whether or not he actually believes it, but who the frick says that to a national sportswriter about their own son? Moreover, who tears down the University that gave said son the platform to excel?
Something is wrong with that guy.
Something is wrong with that guy.
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Posted on 7/30/13 at 9:18 pm to Roger Klarvin
I'm sure he will come out and say shite was taken out of context, etc. but he came off as a total piece of shite in that article. Saying that shite to a national sportswriter about your son, in whatever context, is unforgivable.
This post was edited on 7/30/13 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 7/30/13 at 9:34 pm to Roger Klarvin
walk a mile in his shoes, bro. Just one motherfricking mile 
This post was edited on 7/30/13 at 9:34 pm
Posted on 7/30/13 at 9:44 pm to Roger Klarvin
Calm down, drama queen. Good Lord.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 9:49 pm to TeLeFaWx
I don't think there's anything dramatic about calling him, at best, a man with questionable motives as this point.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 1:03 am to Roger Klarvin
What part did you object to specifically?
Posted on 7/31/13 at 2:52 am to Roger Klarvin
Disappointed in that article.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 8:37 am to Roger Klarvin
I know the Manziel's a bit and I don't think they are shitty at all. Paul wears his emotions on his sleeve and sometimes it makes him look a bit prickly. I just think he might be a bit naive when it comes to the media. You have to remember they are your average East Texas folk and aren't exactly accustomed to having people hang on their every word looking for a story. He is pretty much no different than the typical athletes father. Nothing wrong with that IMO.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 9:06 am to Dr RC
JMO, but ...
I just feel that this a father that IS concerned about his son and the choices he has made, I know ... I know he's in college and all that but ask yourself if you were in school and constantly doing stuff like that to a point that it was a detriment/harmful to you what would your father try to do?
Now I am not saying this was the right way to reach JFF but what if his father thought this was the only way?
No matter what all of this plays out to we all know that JFF needs to mature, it sucks that he doesn't get to have the typical college experience but he isn't the typical college kid and he needs to understand that. He represents so much than just himself and its a disservice for him to act in so a way for those he does rep. I don't think it's terribly out of control like the SECr does but I do believe he needs a come to Jesus moment that he learns how to manage himself, his perception, & the media. When he gets to that maturity level you'll have one heck of a football player.
One that is making headlines for his on-field antics and not his off-field ones.
Here's to hoping JFF truly grows this year, he has so much potential.
ESPN
I just feel that this a father that IS concerned about his son and the choices he has made, I know ... I know he's in college and all that but ask yourself if you were in school and constantly doing stuff like that to a point that it was a detriment/harmful to you what would your father try to do?
Now I am not saying this was the right way to reach JFF but what if his father thought this was the only way?
No matter what all of this plays out to we all know that JFF needs to mature, it sucks that he doesn't get to have the typical college experience but he isn't the typical college kid and he needs to understand that. He represents so much than just himself and its a disservice for him to act in so a way for those he does rep. I don't think it's terribly out of control like the SECr does but I do believe he needs a come to Jesus moment that he learns how to manage himself, his perception, & the media. When he gets to that maturity level you'll have one heck of a football player.
One that is making headlines for his on-field antics and not his off-field ones.
Here's to hoping JFF truly grows this year, he has so much potential.
ESPN
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:31 am to Roger Klarvin
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His father defended him too, getting banned from the TexAgs message board and then, after borrowing a friend's login, getting his friend banned too.
quote:Best parts of the article.
He took Grandpa Manziel to see 2 Chainz.
These little anecdotes were one of the lone bright spots in an otherwise cringe-inducing article. It takes a lot to rustle my jimmies, but that article just about did it. I don't get the need to place the university in such a negative light and I fail to see how giving this interview could come across as a good idea to anyone except for ESPN.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 10:41 am to Roger Klarvin
I don't think PM is a bad father at all but he is naive about a lot of things. He clearly loves his son. He clearly wants the best for his son. He clearly wants to protect his son.
The problem is he is making a lot of his son's problems worse by his actions. Allowing this article to be written at all was a huge mistake. Words written always sound different than when they are spoken and you can't take them back. PM also really doesn't understand that even though is son has done amazing things for A&M he is still a scholarship football player and that has a LOT of limitations and restrictions that go along with it. The school has to protect itself and the rules still must apply to Johnny as long as he is a scholarship athlete. That is everything from compliance to discipline. They can only do so much in the way of special treatment. PM also needs to realize just how much A&M has done for him and his son as well. Did it benefit A&M? Sure, but it also has benefited them.
It's just a bad idea though to go out and ask the public for sympathy when you are living a life most people wouldn't dare to dream about. Some will but many more will not. It's no different than any celebrity.
The problem is he is making a lot of his son's problems worse by his actions. Allowing this article to be written at all was a huge mistake. Words written always sound different than when they are spoken and you can't take them back. PM also really doesn't understand that even though is son has done amazing things for A&M he is still a scholarship football player and that has a LOT of limitations and restrictions that go along with it. The school has to protect itself and the rules still must apply to Johnny as long as he is a scholarship athlete. That is everything from compliance to discipline. They can only do so much in the way of special treatment. PM also needs to realize just how much A&M has done for him and his son as well. Did it benefit A&M? Sure, but it also has benefited them.
It's just a bad idea though to go out and ask the public for sympathy when you are living a life most people wouldn't dare to dream about. Some will but many more will not. It's no different than any celebrity.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:04 am to Nguyening
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What part did you object to specifically?
He (and his wife) said that Manziel has been feeling scared since all the fame hit, that there is a good chance he will fall and it will be "really bad" and that he doesn't like doing competitive things with his son because of his temper.
I have no problem with someone thinking that about their son, but all they are doing is making things worse by giving someone quotes to publically print.
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 11:06 am
Posted on 7/31/13 at 11:35 am to aggressor
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Allowing this article to be written at all was a huge mistake
This
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M also really doesn't understand that even though is son has done amazing things for A&M he is still a scholarship football player and that has a LOT of limitations and restrictions that go along with it
And this.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 12:00 pm to Roger Klarvin
Well like I said, for better or worse, John Paul wears his feelings on his sleeve from the time I have spent with him. Sometimes this may lead to him saying things that come out wrong but as I have done the same I can't exactly fault him for that.
All I know is that he has always been a really nice guy to me. Same goes for Johnny, his grandma, his mother, his sister, his aunt, her husband, etc.
As far as I'm concerned they are a normal East Texas family, wealthy yes, but pretty normal. They are competitive, love living life, and are not ashamed of who they are. I really have nothing bad to say about them.
All I know is that he has always been a really nice guy to me. Same goes for Johnny, his grandma, his mother, his sister, his aunt, her husband, etc.
As far as I'm concerned they are a normal East Texas family, wealthy yes, but pretty normal. They are competitive, love living life, and are not ashamed of who they are. I really have nothing bad to say about them.
This post was edited on 7/31/13 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 7/31/13 at 12:39 pm to Dr RC
I don't question any of that DrRC. I have no doubt that family has a tremendous amount of love for each other. I have no doubt a lot of the things he said to Thompson would be fine if sitting down and having a beer in private. The problem was he did it with a reporter for the largest sports news information service in the world.
Unfortunately all he has done is make his family's problems worse. The only upshot is Johnny himself will likely become more of a character that people sympathize with because they question the actions of his father. I suppose that could be a good thing, I'm sure Paul would rather people attack him than his son. Still, he better be ready for the onslaught after that article as the view of him personally is now forever changed in the public eye. He opened pandora's box and there is no way to know what the consequences will be.
Unfortunately all he has done is make his family's problems worse. The only upshot is Johnny himself will likely become more of a character that people sympathize with because they question the actions of his father. I suppose that could be a good thing, I'm sure Paul would rather people attack him than his son. Still, he better be ready for the onslaught after that article as the view of him personally is now forever changed in the public eye. He opened pandora's box and there is no way to know what the consequences will be.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 12:40 pm to aggressor
Agree, aggressor.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 1:06 pm to aggressor
Well all I can say is media gonna media. There is a reason I quit working news and it wasn't because I found a better paying job.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 1:54 pm to Dr RC
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You have to remember they are your average East Texas folk and aren't exactly accustomed to having people hang on their every word looking for a story
The one thing I disagree with you on is the idea that they are "average East Texas." They are used to being the center of attention. And I think that's part of the problem: to most people, it would be unusual and awkward for a stranger to want to come spend time with you and ask questions about your upbringing and your relationship with your son. But if you're used to being the center of attention in small town life, you just start talking and aren't shy about letting people know when you're unhappy.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 2:18 pm to PowerTool
That isn't true at all. They are not used to being the center of attention like this. Hell, nobody is.. Their family was one of the more well off in Tyler but they were by no means big time socialites running the show with with crap like Rose Festival. And a kid rocking it at small arse Tivy is nothing remotely close to the attention you get at A&M let alone winning the Heisman and a TMZ styled media having a hard on for lazy sensationalistic stories.
Posted on 7/31/13 at 4:20 pm to Roger Klarvin
Met some people in Tyler that know the family the other day at the pool. Said Johnny is just having a good time like anyone else his age.
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