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Sure You Wanna Speed It Up? Faster Offenses Lead To Weaker Defenses In The SEC
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:03 pm
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:04 pm to Gardevoir
SHMEEGLE
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:04 pm to Gardevoir
go back in your pokeball
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:05 pm to Gardevoir
summary? tl;dr
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:05 pm to Gardevoir
McRibs
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:09 pm to Gardevoir
Didn't read, but how many HUNH offenses have won a National Title?
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:10 pm to Gardevoir
Bama and UGA could both have a top five offense (maybe not statistically) this year, and neither play pussy HUNH ball.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:13 pm to Gardevoir
It is a sign of desparation. Run and gun, no huddle, hurry up are all variations of short term success gimmicks.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:14 pm to Gardevoir
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Discuss.
nah
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:16 pm to Gardevoir
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But these numbers are hard to argue with on the whole. The more up-tempo an SEC team goes on offense, the less effective it will likely be on defense. Conversely, the slower a team plays on offense, the better its chances of playing well on defense.
This is wrong and all the evidence I need is from watching Fran's last few years at A&M.
We played a slow paced, run based offense. The defensive numbers looked like they improved under Gary Darnell but in reality they could never get important stops or hold anyone on 3rd down.
If you have good talent and they are coached well the D will be good. The speed of your offense has little to do with it.
The problem with the formula MrSEC is using is they are assuming more yards and points given up = a worse defense. By pure numbers one could argue that but if you actually watch the games? Not so much.
If you want to see a better measure of a team's defensive capabilities you need to look at their 3rd down defense. Yards and points are ultimately meaningless when you can toss up 35+ points a game.
This post was edited on 6/23/13 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:31 pm to Gardevoir
So defenses that spend more time on the field play worse because of fatigue?
What a revolutionary thought
What a revolutionary thought
This post was edited on 6/23/13 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:37 pm to Gardevoir
Boobs?
Posted on 6/23/13 at 10:40 pm to Gardevoir
Any statisticians on board? It looks to me the author is just dividing number of snaps by possession time. It's a mathematical exercise. I've watched Chip Kellys' version a few times. Sometimes he'll run an actual hurry up. Sometimes it's simply a no-huddle, calling the play at the line, to disallow defensive substitutions.
This article looks like a rehash of 'statistics mean whatever you want them to mean'. Balding men have a higher incidence of heart attack. Has nothing to do with hair, balding men tend to be older, therefore higher incidence of heart attack.
This article looks like a rehash of 'statistics mean whatever you want them to mean'. Balding men have a higher incidence of heart attack. Has nothing to do with hair, balding men tend to be older, therefore higher incidence of heart attack.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:33 pm to Gardevoir
That's the dumbest article I've ever read. As some have said, with HUNH offense there will always be more plays in a game, thus it would mathematically be almost guaranteed you would give-up more yards in a game. It would be much more interesting to see if he divided them out in a yards per play or points per possession metric. Is your defense worse or does the opponent just get more opportunities due to a faster paced offense?
Secondly, he completely fails to acknowledge that offense and defense are interconnected. Let's say your defense does give up an average of 1 additional TD per game, but your offense scores 2 additional TDs per game. This moron's study would have you believe the transition to the HUNH was erronious whereas anyone with a brain could see it was beneficial.
Secondly, he completely fails to acknowledge that offense and defense are interconnected. Let's say your defense does give up an average of 1 additional TD per game, but your offense scores 2 additional TDs per game. This moron's study would have you believe the transition to the HUNH was erronious whereas anyone with a brain could see it was beneficial.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:40 pm to Gardevoir
I have this really wild theory that I just thought of, so bear with me but
I think that the team that executes their offense or defense better, regardless of the scheme, will probably win more than they lose.
Feel free to tear that idea apart. This is America.
I think that the team that executes their offense or defense better, regardless of the scheme, will probably win more than they lose.
Feel free to tear that idea apart. This is America.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 12:00 am to Gardevoir
I don't think so. A good defense can play regardless. However, Saban has been crying for yrs about no-huddle offenses. Cause they'll kill those 300lbs D-Linemen
Posted on 6/24/13 at 5:47 am to Gardevoir
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Alabama
Figures, Knew it before I even clicked the thread..
Posted on 6/24/13 at 6:06 am to Gardevoir
A&M had its best defense since the Slocum years last season. OP's argument is invalid.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 6:56 am to Gardevoir
see I kinda remember LSU shutting down oregon offense two years ago.
a fast and strong defense will slow down a good offense no matter how fast they are.
BTW did a speedy offense win the championship last year. Now a powerful immovable defense did.
two years ago (even though I want to forget it) the nations top two defenses squared off against each other, and the only time they lost the entire season was to each other.
teams may be getting quicker on offense but the team who wins year after year after year won't be the teams with offense and not much defense it will be the teams with great defense and enough offense to win.
the only offensive team to win it recently was Auburn with scam newton.
a fast and strong defense will slow down a good offense no matter how fast they are.
BTW did a speedy offense win the championship last year. Now a powerful immovable defense did.
two years ago (even though I want to forget it) the nations top two defenses squared off against each other, and the only time they lost the entire season was to each other.
teams may be getting quicker on offense but the team who wins year after year after year won't be the teams with offense and not much defense it will be the teams with great defense and enough offense to win.
the only offensive team to win it recently was Auburn with scam newton.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 7:58 am to Gardevoir
I hate that offense. Lets hurry up and run a play before the defense is ready.
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