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re: Will the SEC championship come down to Bama and LSU again?

Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:10 pm to
Exactly. Dude wants to talk about "stats". Then talk about missed FG's in the 2nd half.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:12 pm to
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We shall never know.


No, but seeing as LSU neither blew out nor got blown out in any game in 2012 I'm fairly confident in saying it would have been a very close game. Just saying
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70948 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:12 pm to
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Square pegs, round holes, etc.


I understand your way of thinking as a new SEC member. But if you can try to recall Les Miles teams before 2009, you'll notice that we ran a completely different offense.

LSU has plenty of talent to be able to change their offense around when necessary.
Posted by 167back
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:13 pm to
What makes you think LSU will run a nohuddle out of the I with the QB under center???

LSU's nohuddle will be effective because they have the personell to go three, four and five wide with the same personell. Defense will not be able to sub out.

Three WRs

TE Dickson/Smith. Smith was the #2 high school TE in the country last year. Both TEs have the athletic ability to line up alongside tackle or flex out wide.

RB Blue/Hill/Magee. Blue almost was moved to WR last year because of his sure hands. Miles decided against it because he was the best RB on the team heading into the season. Hill is known to be a reliable receiver out the backfield. Magee was actually moved to WR last year. All three have the ability to line up in the backfield alongside the QB or line up in the slot.

This is why LSU has the ability to run an effective nohuddle. Multiple players with multiple skill sets.

First play. three wide, TE in tight and RB alongside QB

Second play, four wide, TE flexed out. RB alongside QB

Third play, five wide. Empty backfield.

That will be the LSU UPNH offense.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:17 pm to
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But if you can try to recall Les Miles teams before 2009, you'll notice that we ran a completely different offense.


If you can try and recall, A&M was playing him and his offense at OSU long before LSU fans even knew who he was.

Miles has always been a wishy-washy guy when it comes to philosophy. He's a batshit crazy character who isnt really renowned for anything in the way of schemes but it seems to work for him. I think this will fail miserably, though. Zach Mettenberger and those receivers running hurry up screams head on collision.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:18 pm to
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Nice avi. They play baseball in Florida?

I live in Jacksonville and have zero desire to root for a Tampa or Miami team.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:20 pm to
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What makes you think LSU will run a nohuddle out of the I with the QB under center???


Because I apparently have a higher opinion of Les Miles and Cam Cameron than you do. Lucky Les isnt God's gift to coaching but I doubt he's stupid enough to try and run a sophisticated, multiple look, wide-open no huddle even for short periods of games.

If he is, well, let the hilarity ensue. I imagine the first time a hurry-up snap sails over Mett's head because he was trying to get his receivers set will be fun to watch.

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First play. three wide, TE in tight and RB alongside QB

Second play, four wide, TE flexed out. RB alongside QB

Third play, five wide. Empty backfield.

That will be the LSU UPNH offense.



If so, I predict it lasts three offensive series. Gary Patterson and TCU have madea name for themselves stopping spread no-huddle offenses way better than LSU's. This would be a disaster.
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 10:23 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36148 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:25 pm to
LSU probably won't open up the offensive playbook against TCU IMO. I think Miles expects to have a large enough physical advantage to line up and overpower TCU's defense caveman style
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46590 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:30 pm to
I agree they should, no reason to deviate from last year against TCU. They are very small on defense, but over the years they have consistently limited no-huddle attacks. They have mastered the 4-2-5.
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 10:31 pm
Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:35 pm to
And LSU outgained the aggies from the second quarter till the end of the game. Tigers led in TOP and points scored also in that time frame.

LSU spotted the aggies a 12 point lead and somehow found a way to win the game.

I don't think it was an upset. not sure but, I believe tigers were favored that saturday.

FYI your numbers don't add up to the actual game stats.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
46590 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:38 pm to
The A&M/LSU was not a well-played game by either team. It was ugly, there lots of stupid penalties and both offensive gameplans were pitiful for most of the game. Manziel played poorly and Mettenberger coudnt hit the broad side of a barn. Both special teams units had bad days. For as big a game as it was, the crowd was audibly bored at times.

It was a mudfight that LSU came out of slightly cleaner, nothing more. Hopefully next year is a better game.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70948 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:44 pm to
You have your opinions about the offense, that's fine. But I think I'll trust our staff over your opinion.

Off to bed. Have a good weekend folks. Oh and my birthday is in an hour and 15 min
Posted by 167back
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:46 pm to
Hey YON!!!

Could you please describe a two minute offense to me???

All Mett and the offense have to do is not huddle. Setup and call the play at the line. That alone doesn't let the "D" sub out.

They will have the offensive personell to run any formation they want. Nothing sophisticated about it.

You don't think Mett has ever taken a shotgun snap before?
Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
4710 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:50 pm to
All LES does is WIN.That's all he's really known for.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70948 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:51 pm to
Well damn
Posted by Tiger Stadium 11
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2009
5216 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 10:55 pm to
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how many years in a row has LSU determined the SEC West winner?


2012- LSU Bama in Bt R
2011- LSU Bama in Ttown
2010- LSU AU meeting undefeating to take lead, the LSU knocking Bama out of the running in Bt R
2009-LSU Bama in ttown, west was still up for grabs
2008- LSU Bama in Bt R, Bama won by winning that game
2007-LSU Bama, LSU clinched it winning in ttown
2006-LSU AU and then LSU blasted SEC West winning Arkansas, weird West Race that season
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44066 posts
Posted on 4/11/13 at 11:47 pm to
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2012- LSU Bama in Bt R
2011- LSU Bama in Ttown
2010- LSU AU meeting undefeating to take lead, the LSU knocking Bama out of the running in Bt R
2009-LSU Bama in ttown, west was still up for grabs
2008- LSU Bama in Bt R, Bama won by winning that game
2007-LSU Bama, LSU clinched it winning in ttown
2006-LSU AU and then LSU blasted SEC West winning Arkansas, weird West Race that season


Truth. Since 06' LSU has been in contention for the division title in every year November, except 08'. Not many other teams can say they have been in the race that late pretty much every year. I would guess UF in every year except 2011 probably.
This post was edited on 4/11/13 at 11:51 pm
Posted by Jrv2damac
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 4/12/13 at 7:52 am to
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Truth. Since 06' LSU has been in contention for the division title in every year November, except 08'. Not many other teams can say they have been in the race that late pretty much every year. I would guess UF in every year except 2011 probably.


Don't forget 2005...overtime wins over Auburn to snap their SEC winning streak and #3 in BCS Bama to win the West.

Since 2001, LSU has either won or been in contention for the West actually.....
Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
3743 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:11 am to
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The winner of the LSU-Bama game has won the SEC the last 2 years so actually I'm right


This means nothing. You could also say the winner of the UA/AU game has won the BCSNC the last 4 years.
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 4/12/13 at 8:18 am to
Agree. I think A&M comes back down to earth. Yeah, I'm an LSU homer but I think prognosticators are really underselling the Tigers, which is fine w/ me.
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