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re: How would you rank the offensive minds of the SEC West?

Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:33 am to
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:33 am to
Am I the only person not convinced Sumlin's an offensive genius just yet? I still remember Houston minus Case Keenum
Posted by McRebel42
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:36 am to
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Am I the only person not convinced Sumlin's an offensive genius just yet? I still remember Houston minus Case Keenum


And now he has JFF ... so yeah I'm there with you I'd like to see what he does with another QB as well.

But vice versa can one not argue that he made Case Keenum given that his system made Case good, can't make the same case for JFF because he's JFF
Posted by StrickAggie06
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 11:41 am to
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Am I the only person not convinced Sumlin's an offensive genius just yet? I still remember Houston minus Case Keenum and the 2nd and 3rd string QBs, and forced to play a 4th string true freshman at QB.


FIFY. Keenum and his backup were both lost to season ending injuries in the same game.
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:16 pm to
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Am I the only person not convinced Sumlin's an offensive genius just yet? I still remember Houston minus Case Keenum



That year, Houston played their 3rd and 4th string QBs and still ranked 11th in total offense, and 13th in scoring offense. I don't think that's too shabby.

And JFF isn't the first freshman QB Sumlin coached to a win over a #1 team. Reggie McNeal threw 4 TDs to topple #1 OU in 2002. And speaking of beating OU, many people were saying A&M would miss Kingsbury calling plays in the Cotton Bowl, but the offense didn't slow down one bit.

Maybe Sumlin just keeps getting lucky w/ all these great QBs like Keenum and JFF and sharp OCs like Holgorsen and Kingsbury landing in his lap, but at some point you have to start thinking he's bringing something to the table himself.
Posted by AgroAmerican
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/9/13 at 1:34 pm to
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Am I the only person not convinced Sumlin's an offensive genius just yet? I still remember Houston minus Case Keenum


outside of linking his wiki page, highlights include WR coach at Purdue when Brees was there, OC at OU during their best ever offensive run 03-08 and of course UofH...
Posted by FormMorm
Member since Jul 2012
389 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 9:31 pm to
When houston lost Case Keenum they also lost his back up. They finished the season with the towel boy throwing the rock.
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