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re: Realignment...B1G going after 2 more ACC schools?

Posted on 2/20/13 at 6:18 pm to
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 6:18 pm to
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if the b1g is trying to poach southern schools, than the SEC has to react. its not a case of something you shortsightedly want. its about not letting the b1g expand its blueprint into the south



There's really no way for the SEC to stop the Big 10 from expanding into the South... or at least no way that makes sense for our own financial interests.

There are at least three schools from North Carolina that either the SEC or Big 10 could add to enter the NC market. Obviously NC is the best option for either conference but NC State is also viable (and would improve IMO if it entered as a SEC member). Duke is arguably the #1 basketball school in the country (in terms of recent success and national interest) and generates more money on football than I really thought they could given their generally terrible product and small stadium.

Virginia has two major schools that the Big 10 and SEC should have interest in and Georgia has a major school in Georgia Tech that makes sense for the Big 10 to invite but not for the SEC (When we're already in Georgia and have programs in all the surrounding states)
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145253 posts
Posted on 2/20/13 at 6:28 pm to
I misspoke. I mean that we cant let the b1g enter the Virginia and NC market without us doing the same. Im 100000% for the sec sitting where its at right now, as long as the b1g doesnt try to expand. If the b1g starts to expand. Id be ok with VT and NC or NC and duke
Posted by 2Tigs
Mobile, AL
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/21/13 at 3:31 pm to
When you speculate about those North Carolina TV sets and markets, don't forget:

1. UNC's board controls NC State's board. Don't be surprised if the board members are more loyal to the politics that appointed them than they are to a rivalry with Duke.

2. Duke is a surprisingly small factor in North Carolina media, even in its hometown. It may be a national brand, but cable/satellite providers only get the premium rate for carrying B1G's network within its footprint and Duke is just not important enough to spread the premium rate past the state line. Duke adds no value to an SEC network (beyond what UNC already brings).

conclusion: don't count on the SEC or UNC pulling Duke into the SEC.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2155 posts
Posted on 2/21/13 at 4:30 pm to
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There's really no way for the SEC to stop the Big 10 from expanding into the South... or at least no way that makes sense for our own financial interests. There are at least three schools from North Carolina that either the SEC or Big 10 could add to enter the NC market. Obviously NC is the best option for either conference but NC State is also viable (and would improve IMO if it entered as a SEC member). Duke is arguably the #1 basketball school in the country (in terms of recent success and national interest) and generates more money on football than I really thought they could given their generally terrible product and small stadium. Virginia has two major schools that the Big 10 and SEC should have interest in and Georgia has a major school in Georgia Tech that makes sense for the Big 10 to invite but not for the SEC (When we're already in Georgia and have programs in all the surrounding states)
The Big Ten isn't going to invite Virginia Tech or NC State because they don't fit the academic profile. Apparently, they also aren't interested in Duke (despite the stellar academics). Therefore, if the SEC landed UVA and UNC, the Big Ten would be effectively blocked from expanding in the south, unless they were willing to take Georgia Tech as an isolated outlier, or bend their criteria to admit a school that heretofore wouldn't have made the cut.

That's why I'm not in favor of expanding unless it involves UNC. I think the SEC could live with the Big Ten in Virginia, but if they get UNC, then they can get all the way down to Atlanta with a real presence in the southeast. I doubt that adding NC State and Va. Tech as a response to UNC and UVA going to the Big Ten would have enough upside to overcome the political turmoil the would come with 16 members (there is no way to have 16 teams and preserve all the football rivalries while playing an 8 game schedule, and it's probably not possible at 9 games, although you could come close).
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