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re: Kelly is the best coach Saban will have faced all year
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:00 pm to northalabamacracker
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:00 pm to northalabamacracker
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I guess you forgot about Les Miles
Purposely.
Miles is a mediocre coach at a great place. The sooner you realize this, the better off you will be.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:01 pm to RollTide1987
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It's a fight between him and Kevin Sumlin.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:03 pm to Bham4Tide
I guess it depends how strong Sumlin's ties are to his home state on whether that would be strong enough for him to coach at Alabama.
He didn't play there, never coached there. It might not be home to him any longer. If not, what can Bama offer that he doesn't have, or won't have in a few years?
A&M can pay him more that Bama can, more fertile recruiting in Texas, will have a newly-renovated stadium, etc. most importantly he can establish himself as the Man at A&M and not run the risk of having to follow Saban and being compared to the Bear.
He didn't play there, never coached there. It might not be home to him any longer. If not, what can Bama offer that he doesn't have, or won't have in a few years?
A&M can pay him more that Bama can, more fertile recruiting in Texas, will have a newly-renovated stadium, etc. most importantly he can establish himself as the Man at A&M and not run the risk of having to follow Saban and being compared to the Bear.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:42 pm to TT9
Sumlin is good but I'd like to see how he does without a stud college QB. In the 1 year without Keenum, he went 5-7. And that was his 3rd year there, so it's not like it was a brand new system to the backup.
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:43 pm to Progress
False. Sumlin is better and arguably Miles is better.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:44 pm to I Love Bama
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Sumlin is better? Lol. By that logic gene chizik was good too.
What? There's not a scintilla of logic suggesting your last statement follows your first.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:46 pm to bayoujd
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Sumlin is good but I'd like to see how he does without a stud college QB. In the 1 year without Keenum and his back up, he went 5-7.
FIFY
Amazing how people elide over that little fact.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:47 pm to Bham4Tide
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True. But Sumlin is good. I think he may be Bama's new coach in a few years.
I think I'll be worth 1 trillion dollars in a few years.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:51 pm to Progress
True.
Listen, I like Sumlin and think he's a great coach. But JFF is a special talent. You can't teach a kid instincts.
Listen, I like Sumlin and think he's a great coach. But JFF is a special talent. You can't teach a kid instincts.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 12:52 pm to The7Sins
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arguably Miles is better.
Not even close IMO. Miles might be the worst X's and O's coach in the fricking conference.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:02 pm to DWag215
Didn't know that, and it's a fair point. But it remains to be seen if he can win without great QB play. Brian Kelly has already proven that, not only at ND but also at Cincy when he had to play something like 4 or 5 QBs in the same season and still won 9 games.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:05 pm to Progress
I'd speak up for Miles here but I believe that was one of his worst games this year and he admitted as much. Too many cute trick plays that were not needed.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:07 pm to Progress
Kelly, Miles, Freeze, and then Sumlin
Sumlin has still not done more with less. The one year his QB was injured Houston went 5-7.
Sumlin has still not done more with less. The one year his QB was injured Houston went 5-7.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:15 pm to Tide_in_Tally
How can Sumlin be penalized for coaching good QBs?! If some of you would get your heads out of your asses you'd know Sumlin has coached good QBs since he was at Oklahoma. Plus, he was taught by Mike Price and Joe Tiller. Sumlin is an offensive genius and he'll continue to coach elite QBs because he knows how to create and teach such players.
And, the way Sumlin is recruiting at A&M, I wouldn't wait on him not having an elite QB.
And, the way Sumlin is recruiting at A&M, I wouldn't wait on him not having an elite QB.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:16 pm to Progress
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He has certainly benefited by overseeing two elite Qbs in his head coacing career though.
So? If I were a coach, I would make it a priority every couple of years to get an elite QB. In no other college sport can one player out of so many on the team mean the difference between a .500 season and NC contention.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:17 pm to Beer Bryant
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All around, probably. But he doesn't have the players that Bama does
Neither did Sumlin...and we know how that turned out.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:18 pm to Shaft Williams
What the hell has Freeze or Kelly accomplished to make one believe they're better coaches than Sumlin?!
At Notre Dame it looks like the DC is carrying the team. And, Freeze?! C'mon.
At Notre Dame it looks like the DC is carrying the team. And, Freeze?! C'mon.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:24 pm to Shaft Williams
Not sure if serious. Kelly won 2 national titles in Division II, took Cincy to a BCS game and an undefeated season (first ever there). Now he has ND undefeated in the BCS national title game.
What has Sumlin accomplished in comparison?
What has Sumlin accomplished in comparison?
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