re: Does Missouri regret coming to SEC now?

Porker I'm not sure who said this earlier but I think it was you, either way the statement was that we had more in common with Illinois than Louisiana and Mississippi. That I will agree with. But we have a hell of a lot more in common with Louisiana and Mississippi than Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania, and that's where a majority of the shitty big rusty schools are located

This is true, southeastern Arkansas is as southern as it gets.

Fayetteville is not southern. Not by a long stretch.

If your point is that neither Fayetteville or Columbia is southern then I would agree with you.

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Fayetteville is not southern. Not by a long stretch.

If your point is that neither Fayetteville or Columbia is southern then I would agree with you.

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But Lexington, Nashville and Knoxville are? When Lexington is north while Nashville and Knoxville fall on the same geographical southern line?

Also, Knoxville and Fayetteville have both the same minority population and elevation.. What is different? They are east of the Mississippi River.. Okay than that cuts out the entire state of Arkansas and 90% of Louisiana. Furthermore, the Mississippi River is not the real geographical line of east vs west of the United States.

Arkansas State (Jonesboro) isn't southern either? If not, Memphis, which is a stones throw from Jonesboro, sure isn't southern.

Basically you are totally disregarding the difference between the Deep and Upper South. Heck, drive directly east of Little Rock and you run into Oxford, MS is that not the south either?

Don't forget weather. Columbia gets 26 in of snow annually, Fayetteville gets 4. It snows 17 times/yr in Columbia and twice in Fayetteville. But we are the exact same as them

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Southern as defined by culture and no,

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Serious question? Do you know anything about Fayetteville's Civil War History?

1. It was burned completely to the ground twice during the Civil War.

2. Students from the University of Arkansas (At that time was under a different college name before land grant money was given to start a new college) fought for the south.

LINK from the University of Arkansas and the gentleman's book.



The house stands today off right off Dickson street that bares cannon ball marks from the Civil War. It served as the headquarters for both the Union and Confederate armies as they fought over the city of Fayetteville for two years. The city was burned to the ground not once but twice over this. Awful, because we lost so many beautiful huge antebellum houses. As each army retreated they tried to burn the houses on their way out only to find new ones when invading again. Very interesting.



Next time walk slightly off Dickson Street and take a look the cannon ball marks are still there and it's pretty badass. Not to mention Dickson Street has been a road in town since 1828 and served as a outdoor hospital for both armies.

Bentonville and Fayetteville both have CSA statues saluting the NWA region who overwhelming fought for the CSA just like the rest of the state.



Do you know what a Sun down town is? If you don't it was a racist town with signs posted about black people better not be caught outside when the sun went down. That was the ENTIRE NWA region until 15 years ago. These are history and facts.

You can't say Fayetteville isn't southern in culture. The only thing you can say is it is overrun with northerners heading south out of union run states. The entire south is having a problem with this not just Fayetteville. I am all for diversity in NWA because it has changed so much in the past 15 years.

Do you also realize Little Rock is almost 50% minority and it's out largest city. I know you don't know much about Arkansas but it is one of the most segregated states in the entire union. Just a history lesson for you.

Oh, the former chancellor's house was burned to the ground during the civil war which would've become the house for the new college.. "University of Arkansas" land grant after the civil war.

Speed up to 1949. Arkansas let in their first black law student because he was a WW2 multiple decorated veteran as in the text they where forced to take him. He never graduated and they documentation was buried until this year.


This is his statue sitting outside of Old Main on campus today.

History lesson for you and the board.

Whoa there, Sunhog. I like your shoes and movies which make have made me sort of like you.

But now you've delved into the Civil War which Mizzou fans have been told over and over doesn't determine if you're southern or not in relentless attacks on our culture.

We've been told that we can't use the Civil War to justify our southernness. We cant use the star on the confederate flag to prove that southern states valued Missouri as a ideological and military partner. Slavery? Off limits of course. Missouri being a split state with two separate governments? Doesn't matter. Missouri having the most battles west of the Mississippi River? Doesn't matter. Jayhawkers referring to Missouri as slavers for the past 150 years. Doesn't mean we're southern.

Then, geography is used to paint us as northern without one person acknowledging that the Mason Dixon line wasn't straight as an arrow. At points, that line was more north than CoMo or West Virginia, yet WV was loyal to the north. They weren't even a split state. Hell, many historical experts claim the south stretched as far north as Hannibal, MO, the birth place of Mark Twain - famous as a riverboat captain and writer of Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn. Hannibal, in the northeast corner of Missouri an hour and a half north of St. Louis has always been referred to as "Little Dixie", a phrase used to describe that area of Missouri during the Civil War and beyond.

However, interestingly, rant tards would rather have WV in the SEC over Mizzou partly because rant tards consider WV to be "southern", which is flat out inaccurate.

When the civl war debate is lost, rant tards then move on to actual Missouri culture. They show retarded Coke/Soda/Pepsi county-by-county maps that attempt to prove Missouri is indeed culturally northern.

Then, when that fails, they talk about crops - according to the rant experts Missouri has more in common with Midwestern states like Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska because we grow corn and soybeans. They fail to understand that we also grow significant quantities of cotton and tobacco, also failing to understand that Missouri tobacco is some of the highest quality tobacco in the U.S. and was in very high demand during the Civil War period of time.

The tard logic is this...if you have cornfields in your state, you're northern. We also produce more wine than any state other than California. I'm not sure what that makes us....but rant experts would most likely say it makes us northern.

We don't make tea like people do in the south. Or, rather, our restaurants don't offer sweet tea (which is a false statement for the southern half of Missouri).

This debate is argument after argument based on nothing substantial other than opinion. And the opinion that Missouri isn't southern is misguided.

To peg Missouri as either northern or southern is retarded when you consider that Missouri is about half Midwestern and half southern, and one city (St. Louis) seems northern until you consider it has strong southern historical ties.

We fit about as well in the SEC as we do in the Big 10 and Big 12. Our people will always be split...that's our history. We'll fight amongst ourselves over our identity and we'll fight with our neighbors over it to...because that's our history. Our tradition is to fight, which makes me wonder why people are so surprised about what our homegrown football players said at SEC media days.

We're about as southern as we are Midwestern...but we most definitely aren't northern unless you consider every U.S. culture dynamic other than southern to in fact be northern. If that's the case, you're an idiot and living in the past.....which is against your own rules on how to determine if someone or somewhere is southern or not.

Hypocrisy at its finest. Cheers to stupidity.



Hell, when the debate is lost, you can always fall on meth as the next best option to troll Mizzou fans.

And let's be clear...the people who initiate this debate are indeed trolls. This debate has one purpose....to incite Mizzou fans into a rash response. I believe that obvious trolling is against the rules, per Ice Cold's most recent proclamation. Perhaps RA worthy?

Dude. Save this post. Seriously. This argument gets brought up weekly. All you have to do is just re-post this. I find myself laughing my arse off to the corn references too.