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re: Spurrier is way out of line here and needs to back off
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:02 pm to jackmanusc
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:02 pm to jackmanusc
USC needs.
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Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:03 pm to genro
Ppl need to learn thier place in this world. When you bite the hand that feeds you, you get put outside.
Media members are a dime a dozen. HBC will get what he wants.
Media members are a dime a dozen. HBC will get what he wants.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:03 pm to Clutch Cargo
Spurrier gets away with being a dick because he's old so people think it's cute when he does it.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:07 pm to jackmanusc
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Nick Saban has oversigned on occasion. Some kid had to be told he couldn't get a scholarship to Bama. Hitler didn't get into the school he wanted to. Ergo, Nick Saban's recruiting will lead to another holocaust.
Comparison is invalid because Nick Saban wasn't compared directly to Hitler.
ETA: Am I doin' it right, allin?
This post was edited on 10/2/12 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:09 pm to piggilicious
I am not a "media rights" fan by any means. But giving any college football coach the "power" to have a reporter fired is crossing the line. And that is what this is boiling down to, how much power does the OBC coach have? He gets Morris fired, then, no other reporter will dare criticize him out of fear of being fired and/or blacklisted. From what I am hearing, the 2 times Morris critized him, those were no big deal. As one said here, GG would have a feast over there with the way he rips CLM and/or LSU all the time. the Penn St.analogy was off the mark, by using it, but that is what JoPa was subsequently all bout, having the power to creat his own cult.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:11 pm to genro
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There is no real reason to compare Spurrier to Penn State, other than to slander him. Don't you get that?
Yes, there is.
I hate to agree with the aggies here, but they're on point.
No college football coach should be beyond reproach, if they are, bad things can happen. Case in point: Joe Paterno. Therefore let's have more accessibility.
Are child rape and Hitler both bad? Yes. But that is your classic red herring.
The fact is that both OBC and JoePa were/are college football coaches that both had ultimate authority with their respective football programs and in one case directly led to crimes and misdemeanors. Hitler was not a college football coach, therefore Hitler is disqualified from the discussion.
Under your criteria, genro, no two things could ever be compared, no matter how similar they were.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:11 pm to Keltic Tiger
99% of everything discussed in this thread is basically entirely incorrect.....only the USC posters have come the closest to understanding what is going on between Spurrier and the local media.
I would advise more questions from the others in order to educate, and less declarative statements...
I would advise more questions from the others in order to educate, and less declarative statements...
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:12 pm to Clutch Cargo
Good for him, he shouldn't take shite from some roody poo candy arse journalist.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:12 pm to parkjas2001
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Ppl need to learn thier place in this world. When you bite the hand that feeds you, you get put outside.
Media members are a dime a dozen. HBC will get what he wants.
This has to be the stupidest thing I've ever read on this board. Do you really want to live in a country without a free press?
"our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost." -- Thomas Jefferson
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:15 pm to Clutch Cargo
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Do you really want to live in a country without a free press?
No, but no one is trying to take that away...if Spurrier doesn't talk to the newspaper, the right to free press has not been taken away. They can still print whatever they want within constitutional and lawful boundaries. Free press doesn't mean that they get the same access no matter what they print.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:16 pm to Dr RC
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a dude doesnt just up and start f-ing with the coach of your local major university team for no good reason.
Apparently you assume that Spurrier must have done something to piss the guy off. That is not the case.
Morris has been at The State for many years. He was highly critical of Holtz and he has been highly critical of Spurrier. Spurrier has put up with him since he arrived here in 2004.
Gamecock fans have hated Morris (and The State) for the negative coverage on all things USC for years. Many people boycott The State specifically because of Morris. Last year, there was a boycott of companies who advertised in The State -- because of Ron Morris.
What was The State's response to all this? They ran billboards touting how controversial Morris was. The Billboards read: "Love him. Hate him. Read him." Apparently they figured that him being controversial sold newspapers. Point being -- it's deliberate.
Spurrier put up with all the negativity for 7 years. He called Morris out for the false reporting about Bruce Ellington last year. This last set of lies crossed the line. Now Morris is impugning Spurrier's personal integrity -- without any factual basis whatsoever.
Spurrier is 100% right on this. He occupies the high moral ground. Morris's "apology" is as fake and insincere as the columns he writes.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:16 pm to Clutch Cargo
so after four pages what is the result???
Bama fans still saying a Head Coach shouldn't tell the media how to do their job?????
interesting and pot say hello to kettle
Bama fans still saying a Head Coach shouldn't tell the media how to do their job?????
interesting and pot say hello to kettle
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:18 pm to Clutch Cargo
Im not talking about free press, im talking about living with consequences.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:22 pm to Clutch Cargo
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This has to be the stupidest thing I've ever read on this board. Do you really want to live in a country without a free press?
"our liberty depends on the freedom of the press, and that cannot be limited without being lost." -- Thomas Jefferson
lol
Drama much?
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:22 pm to parkjas2001
Exactly. Spurrier is not trying to get this guy thrown in jail. Bringing up the 1st amendment is ridiculous
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:33 pm to Keltic Tiger
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no other reporter will dare criticize him out of fear of being fired and/or blacklisted
No other media outlets criticize him and does not take it to heart. His problem is directly related to the fact it is TheState.com located in Colombia, SC. Morris slanders Spurrier's integrity and that of the University. He has every right to blacklist him and comment he wants him fired.
Freedom of Speech goes both ways.
Most Gamecock fans have hated Morris for longer than just the past two years.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:56 pm to Clutch Cargo
Unless you know the full situation, which has been going on for 8 years, then you probably shouldn't comment on the matter.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 3:59 pm to UpstateCock2007
This sounds a lot like Mark Bradley at the AJC for the Dawgs. Only time he writes an article about the Dawgs is when it's negative.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 4:02 pm to USMC Gators
I'm fine with Spurrier calling the guy out.
I'm fine with Spurrier refusing to talk to the guy.
I'm fine with Spurrier standing at a podium and listing the ways that the guy is wrong.
But he crossed the line when he starts talking to the president of the university and has that president call on the publisher of the newspaper trying to get the guy fired. He crossed the line when he started telling people to cancel their subscriptions.
That's not drama. That's a coach who doesn't know his place.
I'm fine with Spurrier refusing to talk to the guy.
I'm fine with Spurrier standing at a podium and listing the ways that the guy is wrong.
But he crossed the line when he starts talking to the president of the university and has that president call on the publisher of the newspaper trying to get the guy fired. He crossed the line when he started telling people to cancel their subscriptions.
That's not drama. That's a coach who doesn't know his place.
Posted on 10/2/12 at 4:06 pm to Clutch Cargo
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But he crossed the line when he starts talking to the president of the university and has that president call on the publisher of the newspaper trying to get the guy fired. He crossed the line when he started telling people to cancel their subscriptions.
I don't see how that crosses a line. I probably would not do the same thing, but he's not doing anything wrong.
It is not curbing free speech or freedom of the press or any of the stuff I've seen thrown around in this thread.
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