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re: Ugh...Harvey Updike is a POS

Posted on 8/8/12 at 6:07 pm to
Posted by allin2010
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Posted on 8/8/12 at 6:07 pm to
USA today picked up the story

USATODAY
A University of Alabama fan is awaiting trial on charges of spiking the trees with a powerful herbicide after Auburn beat the Crimson Tide in 2010 on its way to the national championship, and a Lee County judge has barred anyone involved with the trees and the case from public comment.


Updyke, who named a daughter Crimson Tyde and a son named after legendary Alabama coach Bear Bryant, has pleaded not guilty by reason of mental disease or defect to charges that include criminal mischief and desecrating a venerable object.
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This post was edited on 8/8/12 at 6:08 pm
Posted by Burt Reynolds
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/8/12 at 6:16 pm to
How do you even go about poisoning a tree?
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26727 posts
Posted on 8/8/12 at 6:18 pm to
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How do you even go about poisoning a tree?

Just spray the shite on the soil around the tree when it rains it gets absorbed through the roots.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/8/12 at 6:25 pm to
NtY
Posted by PMPquad47
Nashville
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/8/12 at 6:25 pm to
HU is a major DA and should be banned from the state on pain of death, but the tree's have been dying since they were dug up and trucked 100 miles North of their livable environment.

You guys threw crap paper over live power lines for decades before they moved the utilities underground and started using the trees instead. See here is a picture from 1972 toomers corner:

Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 8/8/12 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

I'm assuming there was a scientific reason to butcher the limbs.


I majored in Forestry in college and my guess is:

Right now the root system is severely stressed and cannot provide enough water or nutrients to the tree's crown.

Without the proper ammount of water reaching the crown the crown will die or become brittle. If the weight of the limbs were to cause any forks to split it would be game over for the tree.

By cutting back the top or crown, it gives the tree more time for its root system to improve and lessens the chance of more damage to the tree from wind or weight.

Any hope for the tree surviving, probably rests on healing the root system and allowing the crown to regrow.


Disclaimer: I do not know what kind of poison was used or how the poison works. Just my guess as to why they would prune the crown back.
This post was edited on 8/8/12 at 6:28 pm
Posted by kduffey
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/8/12 at 6:40 pm to
Unbelievable.
Posted by BamaELCo
Alabama
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:09 pm to
quote:

theenemy
Ugh...Harvey Updike is a POS
quote:
quote:

I'm assuming there was a scientific reason to butcher the limbs.



I majored in Forestry in college and my guess is:

Right now the root system is severely stressed and cannot provide enough water or nutrients to the tree's crown.

Without the proper ammount of water reaching the crown the crown will die or become brittle. If the weight of the limbs were to cause any forks to split it would be game over for the tree.

By cutting back the top or crown, it gives the tree more time for its root system to improve and lessens the chance of more damage to the tree from wind or weight.

Any hope for the tree surviving, probably rests on healing the root system and allowing the crown to regrow.


Disclaimer: I do not know what kind of poison was used (SPIKE 80-DF)or how the poison works. Just my guess as to why they would prune the crown back.




quote:

"University officials said in a press release that the action was being taken to remove weakened branches for safety reasons."


Pure legal matter. They don't want a bunch of Tammy Updykes standing around under the tree waiting on limbs to fall on them so they can sue the school.
Posted by blzr
MB
Member since Mar 2011
30104 posts
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:11 pm to
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but the tree's have been dying since

We get it they were going to die eventually, everything on the earth is. This just makes it sound like you're trying to justify his actions.
This post was edited on 8/8/12 at 11:12 pm
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26727 posts
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:14 pm to
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We get it they were going to die eventually

It seems like I read somewhere they expected to get at least 50 more years out of them before they would have to be replaced which would have given the replacement trees plenty of time to mature.
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:40 pm to
quote:

The sting will go away eventually, Lsuhoohoo. I promise it will.


11/3

Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:10 am to
6. It kills from the roots up
Spike 80DF is a solid powdery substance that must be mixed with water before being applied to the soil around plants. It is absorbed by nearby roots and kills plants by interfering with photosynthesis. A tree that's been targeted with the herbicide may drop its leaves, regrow them and shed them again until its roots die.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:18 am to
quote:

I'm assuming there was a scientific reason to butcher the limbs.



I majored in Forestry in college and my guess is:

Right now the root system is severely stressed and cannot provide enough water or nutrients to the tree's crown.

Without the proper ammount of water reaching the crown the crown will die or become brittle. If the weight of the limbs were to cause any forks to split it would be game over for the tree.

By cutting back the top or crown, it gives the tree more time for its root system to improve and lessens the chance of more damage to the tree from wind or weight.

Any hope for the tree surviving, probably rests on healing the root system and allowing the crown to regrow.


Disclaimer: I do not know what kind of poison was used or how the poison works. Just my guess as to why they would prune the crown back.




OMG people, please stop with the limb questions!!!

The tree is dead! They are cutting the limbs off a)for safety (dont want them falling on people and dont want AU kids to climb them) and b)its a normal process of starting to remove a tree that large!

The NEVER EVER was a chance the tree would survive. Some were being politically correct and didn't want to say it, but from the moment the clown dropped the stuff on the ground, it was basically a lock that the tree was gone.....just a matter of time for it to work its way down to the root system.

And he used double the potency needed......

The most amazing thing in the world is that he actually called in to a radio show and told everyone......easily the dumbest person in the state...what was he thinking?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:19 am to
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what was he thinking?


roll damn tide
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:20 am to
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And he used 80x's the potency needed......


FIFY
Posted by Tusc
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:46 am to
Posted by Joe Blow
Member since Nov 2007
2631 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:47 am to
quote:

The most amazing thing in the world is that he actually called in to a radio show and told everyone......easily the dumbest person in the state...what was he thinking?

He thought he was going to be a hero.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:51 am to
quote:

HU is a major DA and should be banned from the state on pain of death, but the tree's have been dying since they were dug up and trucked 100 miles North of their livable environment.

You guys threw crap paper over live power lines for decades before they moved the utilities underground and started using the trees instead. See here is a picture from 1972 toomers corner:


Whats your point?

It's not his fault?

We shouldn't want to continue rolling the trees?

Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:53 am to
quote:

He thought he was going to be a hero.


And we'd be lying if we said he wasn't to a select few.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19713 posts
Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:54 am to
I originally felt bad about the trees. I love trees, am a nature lover in general. Harvey Updyke is a psycho douchebag. But i have long since stopped giving a shite about these particular trees, mostly because of the way Auburn fans have acted since this happened. You steadily squandered every last bit of goodwill in my opinion, constantly referring to bama fans as Updykes (I believe a large contingent of bama fans raised money to try and help save the trees originally) and trotting the trees out whenever you need to deflect attention from something. So now I think you should take this opportunity to stop the most regoddamndiculous, embarrassing, hick tradition in sports and celebrate victories like you are not a bunch of 7th graders.
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