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re: Tuscaloosa Shooting, 1831 Bar, Up to 16 severe injuries

Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:06 am to
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:06 am to
quote:

To be fair, hopefully LE is focused on catching the guy and not satisfying the media's curiosity.


Agree. I am LE, but if the guy is at large I would think giving people more basic info to get him caught/avoid the crazy SOB would be prudent. At the very least a LEO only bulletin to other state agencies, like mine, to BOLO for the guy.
Posted by wdeinttown
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2011
2976 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Depends on range. If he shot them in the back with a shotgun at 2 or 3 feet, it'd leave a pretty big hole, even with #6 shot.


He was outside the bar when he started shooting, so probably a lot further away than 2 or 3 feet. Also, he shot through the bar's front glass and that is how some of the injuries developed. So, not everyone who was injured was shot.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30264 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Media reports have been crap on this all morning.
quote:

To be fair, hopefully LE is focused on catching the guy and not satisfying the media's curiosity. This is better than the Montgomery Mayor giving updates of swat teams tracking and not being able to catch a dangerous cat in the attic of a home for 10 hours.







Mayor Todd STRANGE to tha rescue --> freakin idiot.
Posted by BamaFan89
T-Town
Member since Dec 2009
19297 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:08 am to
I still can't believe this happened. I really hope they catch the SOB soon.
Posted by greenwave
Member since Oct 2011
3878 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:10 am to
TPD just tweeted that they have recieved many tips on possible suspects, so hopefully they catch him today.
Posted by rolltide06
Member since Jun 2011
1533 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:19 am to
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I see the numbers of victims. Did the shooter have accomplices, what type of gun was used for sure, were there any players at the bar, is the shooter still on the loose, have there been any of the victims passed away, and where was the bar located? Thanks for any help. I need to text my buddy and make sure he's OK.


It appears the shooter acted alone, seemed to be after somebody in the bar. Doesn't look random according to police, could possibly tied to an earlier shooting in Northport the same night. No one has died, only one I believe is in very critical condition. The bar was located in Downtown Tuscaloosa in the Temerson Corner area. Very popular area for bars, restaurants.
Posted by lovingbama
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2011
101 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:19 am to
Update from Tuscaloosa News:

UPDATE: Five of 17 people injured during a mass shooting at the Copper Top, a downtown bar, early Tuesday morning remain hospitalized. One was in critical condition, another was in serious condition and three were in fair condition, DCH Regional Medical Center spokesman Brad Fisher said at 8:30 a.m.

Twelve had been treated and released. All the victims are in their 20s and 30s, Fisher said.
Posted by rolltide06
Member since Jun 2011
1533 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:22 am to
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UPDATE: Five of 17 people injured during a mass shooting at the Copper Top, a downtown bar, early Tuesday morning remain hospitalized. One was in critical condition, another was in serious condition and three were in fair condition, DCH Regional Medical Center spokesman Brad Fisher said at 8:30 a.m. Twelve had been treated and released. All the victims are in their 20s and 30s, Fisher said.


It is amazing no one has died to this point considering what went down. Hopefully the reports continue to be good. This looks like some straight up columbine stuff, the way he walked and carried that huge gun. Walked away after like he had done nothing. It is scary that there are crazies in the world like this, you really aren't safe anywhere anymore.
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:31 am to
Just found out that three of my friends were shot. All three were foot injuries.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:32 am to
I'm still in shock over the fact that no cops were on the scene. I've been down there on weekday nights and there is always a cop or two hanging around that fountain.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:34 am to
unbelievable, kinda creepy that guy can be so casual after something like that, that tells me he's probably ex-military or just maybe a cold son of a bitch...
Posted by thatguy1892
That place you wish you were.
Member since Aug 2011
4628 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:34 am to
Yeah but there's never been a need for them on the weekdays.
Posted by lovingbama
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2011
101 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:37 am to
Looks like story has been updated again and now they are reporting a bit more about the Northport shooting possibly being connected.

Updated at 11:20am
Posted by rolltide06
Member since Jun 2011
1533 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:39 am to
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Looks like story has been updated again and now they are reporting a bit more about the Northport shooting possibly being connected.


Looks like they are putting the pieces together pretty quickly. Hopefully they catch this psycho soon. Good job by the Tuscaloosa Police department.
Posted by MaroonOldCrow
CSRA, GA
Member since Apr 2012
268 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:39 am to
Judging by the way he was walking in the surveillance video, I think he was extrememly drunk. Definitely doing some wobbling.

Side note: as a veteran, I find it a bit perturbing when people, especially the media, start running with the PTSD/crazy veteran meme. Not saying this guy isn't a vet, but let's get the facts before making that kind of call.
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:41 am to
From interim Pres. Dr Bonner

We have learned that three students suffered non life-threatening injuries. Two were treated and released from the hospital, and one is being held for observation.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:41 am to
I see where your coming from, didn't mean it like that at all..I just hope that find this pos...
Posted by rolltide06
Member since Jun 2011
1533 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:42 am to
UA just released this statement.

LINK

To the UA Family:

Our thoughts and prayers go out to those who were injured in the shooting in downtown Tuscaloosa last night. We have learned that three students suffered non life-threatening injuries. Two were treated and released from the hospital, and one is being held for observation.

The Emergency Policy Group convened as soon as we were notified by the city of Tuscaloosa and has been in close contact with Tuscaloosa Mayor Walt Maddox and UAPD since the incident occurred. Following the shooting, UAPD took precautionary measures in the areas west of campus and offered assistance to the Tuscaloosa Police Department.

Also, the University notified the campus community through UA Alerts text messages and emails as soon as information about the situation became available to University officials.

For those who need assistance coping with the aftermath of the shooting, counseling is available through the UA Counseling Center, 1000 South Lawn Office Building (1101 Jackson Avenue), (205) 348-3863.

The safety and well-being of our students is one of our highest priorities at The University of Alabama. The University will continue to partner with the city of Tuscaloosa, as we work together to provide for the safety of our students, faculty and staff.
Posted by lovingbama
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2011
101 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:45 am to
The only time I saw where it looked like he was wobbly was when he got the end of the building and saw people walking by it seemed to me as if he pushed himself towards the wall to maybe shield the view of the gun.
Posted by MaroonOldCrow
CSRA, GA
Member since Apr 2012
268 posts
Posted on 7/17/12 at 11:46 am to
No problem, just a stereotype we fight. Hopefully they'll get the guy soon. Someone knows who this guy is if he's a gun aficionado; we're like car enthusiasts, we like to show them off.
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