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re: If Penn State Scandal occurred in the SEC , would we support a ban?

Posted on 7/13/12 at 5:09 am to
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/13/12 at 5:09 am to
This isnt really a football issue so i dont see how they could give them the death penalty

Had this all came out in the 80-90s with Sandusky still the D Coordinator and all that, then maybe you consider doing that just to sort everything out, but even then you are punishing the wrong people.

Sandusky is in Jail. Paterno is dead. Most of the leaders in this report will never work for Penn St again. None of those guys will be a part of Penn St football ever again, so how does it make sense to punish Penn St football? Thats like putting a murder's entire family under house arrest for 2 years after hes convicted. Makes zero sense.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 7/13/12 at 6:59 am to
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This isnt really a football issue so i dont see how they could give them the death penalty


You sound just like Joe Pa did right after Sandusky was arrested. How is this not a "Football" issue?

The first crime of rape of a child was committed by an active defensive co-ordinator of the Penn State football program in the Penn State Football facilities. It was decided by the Head Coach and the AD to cover up the incident.

The Head Coach and AD decided that instead of reporting the DC to the proper authorities, they decided to give him an extremely lucrative retirement package. A retirement package that included full use of all Penn State Football facilities, the ability to use the campus and facilities to promote and operate his "charity" that he used to exploit young boys.

Jerry Sandusky for a period of 12 years after he was retired by Penn State for having inappropriate relations with a 13 year old boy, used the Penn State Football Facilities to bring young boys to to execute his crimes. The Football facilities were the bait used by Sandusky to seduce these young boys. A Penn State graduate assistant found Sandusky in the act of anally raping a young boy in the Penn State Football Facilities. Again, Paterno, the AD, and VP of the University failed to report these actions.

These actions were not reported so that no shame would come to the Penn State Football Program and University. By reporting this incident it would hurt fundraising and hurt the image of the saintly Penn State Football Program.

How in the Hell is this not a Football issue?

If there has ever been a reason to bring down the hammer of justice to a football program this is it. We have idiots on this board giving SEC programs major grief for handing out cars, a few envelops, fixing a few grades, flying a kid home to see his sick parents, etc.... but when an entire University allows their Football Program to be the bait for a known child predator to use as his candy store to commit crimes we say it's not a football issue and the NCAA has no jurisdiction?

None of the victims will get their innocence back by putting Jerry Sandusky in jail. None of them will get the purity of their youth's back by suing the Unviversity. But......both must pay, and pay dearly for their crimes. Yes, The Penn State Football program must pay dearly for their major role in this most horrific acts that were done over a 14 year period.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 7/13/12 at 8:56 am to
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Sandusky is in Jail. Paterno is dead. Most of the leaders in this report will never work for Penn St again. None of those guys will be a part of Penn St football ever again, so how does it make sense to punish Penn St football? Thats like putting a murder's entire family under house arrest for 2 years after hes convicted. Makes zero sense.


No. In this case the institution as a legal person had a role to play in this matter. While the individuals should be punished, the legal person also failed through the failings of its agents. Penn State as an institution doesn't get to skate by saying it was the employees' fault. The institution acts through its employees.

This point has nothing to do with the NCAA portion of the debate. It is offered soley to show that the institution is culpable beyond what happens to its agents. More trouble for the institution is warranted, necessary, and expected--whether from a court of law, the NCAA, or an accrediting entity.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26999 posts
Posted on 7/13/12 at 10:14 am to
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wildtigercat93
If Penn State Scandal occurred in the SEC , would we support a ban?
This isnt really a football issue so i dont see how they could give them the death penalty


You're right...it isn't a football issue. It's a university issue. Give the whole university the death penalty. Yank their accreditation and make them have to lose access to all federal dollars. Thousand of students would transfer, thousands of incoming freshmen would enroll elsewhere. Sure, those students will suffer inconvenience...but they will still get college educations from good schools. You really want to make the higher-ups at Penn State and the university itself suffer? Nothing could hurt them worse than losing access to federal dollars.
This post was edited on 7/13/12 at 10:17 am
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