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re: Post rematch opinion
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:31 am to AlaTiger
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:31 am to AlaTiger
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Either that, or go to an official 4 team playoff. If you do that, I could care less about rematches. They will happen regularly,
With 2 other options. Either we kill the SECCG or the loser can not be one of the 4 teams. In 08' and 09' the SECWest champ or the SECEast champ has to beat the other twice in a row to advance. So you know 2 games in a row with the same opponent. That will SUCK big time.
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:32 am to Aman
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When did I ever say I was against a playoff? I think a playoff in college football would be great and is long overdue.
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Let's keep the system the way it is.
I don't think it would have made any difference this year either. Bama would have won, even with a playoff. ...and it's still just my opinion. But your 2 quotes appear to be conflicting...no?
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:32 am to LC412000
No, but a team playing an unranked team in December winning the NC, even then, was pretty controversial.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:34 am to bama1989
The problem with a playoff with Conference winners, would be a situation like this year, when it's clear the 2 best teams are from the same conference. For all the BCS hate, it's gotten it right nearly every single time and compared to what it used to be, I'm happy about that.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:34 am to bama1989
rematch is for other sports. regular season is the playoff in college football.
every game counts, (unless you're Alabama)
every game counts, (unless you're Alabama)
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:35 am to RollTigers
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Rematches are dumb
Only when you get molested in the rematch like LSU did on Nov. 9th.
Alabama deserved to play a team that wanted to win a national championship and who had some heart, so if that is what you mean by dumb I agree, if what you really mean is, we didn't want to play the best team in the nation because our team is heartless and wanted a much weaker opponent then I disagree and so did the BCS.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:36 am to llfshoals
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Well the SEC has been won the last 4 years by 4 different teams. Parity is certainly alive and well in this conference.
But not necessarily in other conferences. My point being this: We could have the best 2 or 3 teams in the country and be left out of the BCS championship game all together. It could and more than likely will happen if the present system continues.
This post was edited on 1/22/12 at 10:36 am
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:37 am to Crompdaddy8
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rematch is for other sports. regular season is the playoff in college football.
every game counts, (unless you're Alabama)
If you feel this way, then may as well be crowning NC's at the end of the regular season and make Bowls exhibition again, because a great majority of people agree that Bama was among the 2 best teams in the season going into the BCS game. If you're not going to match the two best teams, then the BCS is meaningless anyways.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:38 am to Crompdaddy8
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every game counts, (unless you're Alabama)
Every game did count, especially Okie States embarrassing loss to Iowa State.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:42 am to Alahunter
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Everyone griping about the BCS, should be thankful for it instead. Many of you don't remember or weren't around under the old way of awarding NC's.
Don't ever doubt that the Pac-? and Big-? would go right back to hiding their Conf. champs in the Doze Bowl and using their enormous media markets to lock out the SEC. Can't beat 'em on the field, beat 'em in the media coverage.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:43 am to Porky
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don't think it would have made any difference this year either. Bama would have won, even with a playoff. ...and it's still just my opinion. But your 2 quotes appear to be conflicting...no?
My last statement was said in jest in response to a stupid article on CBS sports stating with a playoff Bama would not have won the title in 2009 and 2011. I am very much for a 4 team playoff.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:44 am to Aman
Ohhhh....OK. I get it. 
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:45 am to Alahunter
my stance about college football has always been the same, even before 2011 season. this has nothing to do with my Bama hate.
I was always firmly against the playoff system in cfb, because I don't want to lose some of the best aspects of college football, one of which is "do or die, virtual knockout games" every week of the season if you're after the title.
it doesn't matter if you have the best team. that's debatable anyways. you had your shot and lost. then you're knocked out of the race, no matter how good you are.
I was always firmly against the playoff system in cfb, because I don't want to lose some of the best aspects of college football, one of which is "do or die, virtual knockout games" every week of the season if you're after the title.
it doesn't matter if you have the best team. that's debatable anyways. you had your shot and lost. then you're knocked out of the race, no matter how good you are.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:47 am to northalabamacracker
rematch put LSU clearly at a disadvantage mentally. Portions of that team didn't show on the 9th, starting with the OL, who's leader publicly said Bama didn't earn their spot, which was true
No playoff is perfect, say we get a Ravens/Niners SB....I certainly won't think those are the two best teams of the season, just won at the right time
I don't know where I fall anymore, the way the season played out was certainly uninspiring. As a fan, I couldn't get up for the BCSCG, just felt like a sec game to me. It wasn't "special" even though it should have been. If LSU played a team from another conference would it have been different? probably, just cause of the unknown, which is the beauty of CFB to me.
The selection process is probably the issue. Remember that the computers had Okie St a clear two while the humans put their own influence on what they wanted to see.
So I don't know the answer. I know LSU shouldn't have had to beat the same team twice to win a title, but I also know that if Bama had won the first game, I wouldn't have thought LSU deserved another shot. I don't think it's that hard to lay down a couple rules. Hell just make the BCS conference champs and no one else but that's to simple and easy to understand.
Can't complain too much, LSU did benefit in 07 but certainly makes CFB look foolish by not having some balls and creating a easy gameplan but that won't happen either
No playoff is perfect, say we get a Ravens/Niners SB....I certainly won't think those are the two best teams of the season, just won at the right time
I don't know where I fall anymore, the way the season played out was certainly uninspiring. As a fan, I couldn't get up for the BCSCG, just felt like a sec game to me. It wasn't "special" even though it should have been. If LSU played a team from another conference would it have been different? probably, just cause of the unknown, which is the beauty of CFB to me.
The selection process is probably the issue. Remember that the computers had Okie St a clear two while the humans put their own influence on what they wanted to see.
So I don't know the answer. I know LSU shouldn't have had to beat the same team twice to win a title, but I also know that if Bama had won the first game, I wouldn't have thought LSU deserved another shot. I don't think it's that hard to lay down a couple rules. Hell just make the BCS conference champs and no one else but that's to simple and easy to understand.
Can't complain too much, LSU did benefit in 07 but certainly makes CFB look foolish by not having some balls and creating a easy gameplan but that won't happen either
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:49 am to Crompdaddy8
apparently most Bama fans think the same way as I do.
from November 6th:
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from November 6th:
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Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:49 am to Crompdaddy8
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it doesn't matter if you have the best team. that's debatable anyways. you had your shot and lost. then you're knocked out of the race, no matter how good you are.
You do realize this year that LSU was the only no loss team in a BCS conference? I don't understand you're statement that a loss knocks you out. All other teams has a loss.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:51 am to northalabamacracker
you're mad. Alabama didn't deserve anything - the only team that deserved a spot in the national title game was LSU. Only undefeated team, beat two other conference winners and two teams ranked #2 and #3 when they played them. Contender for best resume of any college football team ever.
Alabama was no more deserving than Oklahoma State or Stanford. Half the titles any team claims pre-BCS are less reasonable than the title I think LSU should claim this year. The only way I would say that Bama deserves the title would be if they went to Baton Rouge and played LSU again before the NFL Draft and won again. Since that won't happen, I hope LSU claims a title.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:52 am to Aman
IMHO
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:56 am to bama1989
When/if there is a playoff there will be MORE "rematches". It will be SEC vs SEC more often than not as long as the rankings fall just right. If you take conference champions only, look at what you'll have. It has to be paired by rankings, so rematches it will be. Then what will folks complain about. This year 1 played 2, that is how it should be, under the current system. If other conferences don't like it, join the SEC.
Posted on 1/22/12 at 10:57 am to RollTigers
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you're mad. Alabama didn't deserve anything - the only team that deserved a spot in the national title game was LSU.
So LSU should have played themselves?
One team in a title game always has a better resume to that point. That doesn't mean they are the best team.
This post was edited on 1/22/12 at 10:58 am
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