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re: Let's clear something up about JJ/Bar fights/ Kicking in the head

Posted on 12/31/11 at 10:30 am to
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 10:30 am to
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If JJ played for Bama, the corn dogs would be calling for his head, calling him a thug, saying there is a cover-up, etc.......

Hypocrites.


Alabama has current players that have had their run ins brah.
Posted by reydetuto
Big BR
Member since Nov 2007
224 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 10:33 am to
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Too lazy to read 7 pages but in case it hasn't been covered...there is a difference in cameras...i.e. cameras in a dark environment only shoot black and white due to low light...I am no camera expert but I have seen a video from a camera that due to the low light showed a shirt to be a light almost white color when I saw the person wearing a black shirt. Not saying JJ did or didn't, just my observations. FWIW the different shirts on different cameras is not a good argument.


Security camera inside the bar was lit with infrared LEDs. you can't see the light they emit, it allows the use of security cameras where low light is desirable. Most digital cameras use an infrared cut filter over the sensor because IR messes up color rendition, security cameras in bars use this technology because it is inexpensive. Other cameras outside lit by ambient neon, hg-vapor, halogen headlights, etc.

Infrared reacts differently than you might expect on some surfaces, passes directly through some fabrics (cue pervs at the beach with "night vision" video cameras), green foliage reflects IR so strongly that it renders bright white. It is possible that the "dark" pigment in JJ's shirt (or additives in his laundry detergent) rendered it white to the security camera.

But how many times have you EVER heard police get search warrants and DNA tests for a fight outside a bar? The whole thing stinks of corruption and media hype. Stupid of JJ in particular to have been there in the first place, it's tough being a celebrity in a small town... the microscope of scrutiny.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 11:38 am to
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Security camera inside the bar was lit with infrared LEDs. you can't see the light they emit, it allows the use of security cameras where low light is desirable. Most digital cameras use an infrared cut filter over the sensor because IR messes up color rendition, security cameras in bars use this technology because it is inexpensive. Other cameras outside lit by ambient neon, hg-vapor, halogen headlights, etc.

Infrared reacts differently than you might expect on some surfaces, passes directly through some fabrics (cue pervs at the beach with "night vision" video cameras), green foliage reflects IR so strongly that it renders bright white. It is possible that the "dark" pigment in JJ's shirt (or additives in his laundry detergent) rendered it white to the security camera.


Your knowledge of security cameras is obviously pretty deep. However, the one used in Shady's isn't that advanced. It's about as cheap as it gets and it's a closed circuit unit. Not to mention Lowery's white shirt looked exactly the same in the video and the picture. Also, the dark kicking figure is not even close to 6'5 240lbs.
Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 12:28 pm to
Every non LSU fan in this thread is an idiot.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67125 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 12:40 pm to
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Let's clear something up about JJ

Ok, so now we're all clear?
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4558 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 1:00 pm to
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If I recall JJ was officially charged after the apartment search where it was speculated they found blood on his shoes. You want to dispute that part too?



Now you are just making shite up. They never found blood.


I said "it was speculated". You're argument is weakened dramatically when you show you can't read. And yes, everybody would speculate that blood was found after his arrest.

Are you his lawyer or direct family member? I'm guessing the later. Lawyers are generally smarter than the BS your bringing in here.

By the way, JJ will never play NFL. He's one of the worst QB's in the SEC. No one is going to pay for him to play on Sunday.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79284 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 1:08 pm to
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He's one of the worst QB's in the SEC.


Bookmarked.
Posted by jhamil25
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2007
2482 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 1:45 pm to
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He's one of the worst QB's in the SEC.


It is going to suck for you when he whips Bama's arse....again
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 1:51 pm to
LOL it was a bar fight that someone else started. What more do you want. Yes we are angry that he got into a fight because the guy was talking shite. What did you want him to do?
Posted by reydetuto
Big BR
Member since Nov 2007
224 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 1:57 pm to
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Your knowledge of security cameras is obviously pretty deep. However, the one used in Shady's isn't that advanced. It's about as cheap as it gets and it's a closed circuit unit. Not to mention Lowery's white shirt looked exactly the same in the video and the picture. Also, the dark kicking figure is not even close to 6'5 240lbs.

Nah, I just know cameras in general. Here's a 4 pack of the cameras most bars would use for $180. Note the ring of LED's on the front. If you're really bored, point a TV remote control at any phone or digital camera while pushing one of the buttons, you should be able to see the LED on the screen. Your camera has an IR cut filter over the CCD, but enough gets through to show up.

Two images about 6 years ago with a Sony F828. One in NightShot mode and a Hoya R72 visible light cut (IR pass) filter, the other is normal. Both straight out of camera, ,no edits. I experimented a LOT with infrared portraiture back then, it can be highly unpredictable. Notice how SOME, but not all of the black fabric turns white?



To me, this is one of the points that the BRPD and local news people missed. Different types of cameras, completely different lighting situation. It's the shitty phone video footage that we both question. Is it really JJ? I doubt it, but NOT because of the color of his shirt.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10422 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 5:16 pm to
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He's not poor dumb arse and he's been at a school that gets free Nike shite for 4 years. Keep reaching for the stars.


Well, *obviously* he's not your typical poor college student, that's part of the point... You can't be and have 100 pair of shoes in your closet... and who's going to give you 100 pair of free shoes. Not Nike.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 5:26 pm to
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Alabama has current players that have had their run ins brah.


Not the starting QB.
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 5:33 pm to
All of this was discussed as to why JJ has 100 pairs of shoes. The ACTUAL bar-fight notwithstanding, people keep coming up with ideas and assumptions as to what happened, who did what, etc;

Does anyone know why JJ has so many shoes? I mean the real answer? Its so frustrating
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 5:46 pm to
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Well, *obviously* he's not your typical poor college student, that's part of the point... You can't be and have 100 pair of shoes in your closet... and who's going to give you 100 pair of free shoes. Not Nike.


It wasn't 100 it was 49 and on average they get 2 or 3 pairs of free shoes a year plus flip flops, sweats, socks, shorts, etc. LSU also has some extra pull due to the university giving them the Nike Shark cleat design back in the 90's. They have a room in the equipment warehouse that looks like giant footlocker.
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 12/31/11 at 5:49 pm to
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