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"The Committee to Determine the Future of Rolling Toomer's Corner"

Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:45 am
Posted by TheSandman
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:45 am
Toomer's Oaks Update
While I think the name is kinda silly, they've put together a list of ideas in terms of what to do since they old oaks are probably gonna die. They're also taking suggestions, but here's what's posted on the website:
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Option 1: Replant small oak trees in the same location as the current trees, which eventually will grow large enough for future generations to roll (see below for more information about timing).

Option 2: Replant one or two very large oak trees, which could be rolled within a few years of the roots taking hold (see below for more information about timing and requirements).

Option 3: Move the rolling tradition to the intersection of Toomer's Corner (it's original location) by building a professionally-designed, permanent structure conducive to rolling, which would become part of the village atmosphere downtown (see below for requirements).

Option 4: Design an artificial tree or sculpture to replace the current oaks as a permanent option.

Option 5: Combine any of the above options (see below).


quote:

Considerations/supplemental information to assist you with feedback:

Size of tree: A large tree as referenced here would range from roughly 10 to 25 inches in diameter but could be larger; trees this size could have root balls 10 or more feet in diameter. A "small" tree would be roughly 3 to 5 inches in diameter and could have root ball up to 40 inches.

Requirements for new trees: A large tree would typically require three to five years to establish a strong root base. A guy-wire system would be required to hold a large tree in place, which would delay rolling trees for three to five years due to safety issues.

Impact of Spike 80DF: It takes five to seven years for Spike 80DF (the herbicide used in the attempt to kill the trees) to degrade. To plant large trees sooner would require completely removing all pavers, the brick gateway and soil from the corner. A small tree would take several years to grow roots long enough to reach the areas of soil still containing herbicide, requiring less excavation and allowing time for the herbicide in the soil to degrade.

"Combination of any of the above": You can suggest a combination of any of the options given – for example, planting smaller seedlings to replace the oaks if they die while also building an 'iconic' structure at the intersection, or planting a large oak tree and building a permanent structure, etc.

Cleaning method: The university will not be able to invest in cleaning the trees (or any new trees) by hand indefinitely, due to the extensive cost in doing so; the current hand-cleaning method is in place only temporarily in an effort to save the trees, as it is more gentle than hosing.

Structure requirements: Any permanent structure put in place at the corner would be required to complement/enhance the downtown "village" atmosphere and historic corner, while being safe and conducive to rolling; designs would be submitted by professionals based on these requirements.

Timing: Work on a more permanent structure can begin immediately, as we await the fate of the trees. Landscaping for the trees area itself would occur at a later date.

Type of tree: The current Toomer's trees are "live oaks," which are native to sandy soils in the coastal plains from Virginia to the Florida Keys and west to east-central Texas. Live oak is borderline cold-hardy in the Auburn area and typically much shorter-lived than live oaks growing in their native area. Marginal cold-hardiness coupled with additional stresses from traffic, pollution and concrete surroundings are not conducive to the survival of live oaks. Originally, when the oaks first took root, most of these conditions did not exist and they were able to survive. Therefore the committee, informed by the Toomer's Trees Task Force,* determined that if the trees die, a hardy, native oak species should replace the live oaks.

Funding: The purpose of your feedback is to hear input from the Auburn Family; costs and funding options will be determined once the best solution is determined.


I kinda like the idea of going back to rolling the whole corner (assuming some new trees will be planted that we can roll later on).
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30229 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:48 am to
When we beat Bama again I might roll the old tree in my yard in honor of those trees
Posted by TJRibMe
Houston, Mexas
Member since Sep 2004
5218 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 11:52 am to
quote:

future generations to roll
this made me laugh
Posted by ThatCrimsonSwagga
Dallas, Tejas
Member since Nov 2011
76 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:05 pm to
I think Harvey Updyke should chair the committee
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:06 pm to
I like it that bama fans are so proud of Harvey. It is very fitting and anyone that says Updyke is not representative of bama fans should have another drink and reconsider.
Posted by TheSandman
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Member since Nov 2010
19511 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

anyone that says Updyke is not representative of bama fans should have another drink and reconsider.

I agree 100%.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
90056 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

I think Harvey Updyke should chair the committee
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Option 3: Move the rolling tradition to the intersection of Toomer's Corner (it's original location) by building a professionally-designed, permanent structure conducive to rolling, which would become part of the village atmosphere downtown (see below for requirements).


this is kinda awesome

in a let's-make-fun-of-Auburn-for-having-rolling-down-to-a-science kind of way
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
5096 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:12 pm to
There were articles published about the tress dying due to abuse long before Updyke came along.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75747 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:13 pm to
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Impact of Spike 80DF: It takes five to seven years for Spike 80DF (the herbicide used in the attempt to kill the trees) to degrade.

I know nothing about plants and how they work, so I assume, like magnets, that they are miracles. But wouldn't leaving the current trees in as long as possible help the future trees chances? I mean, the sick trees can keep leaching the Spike80 out of the soil, making the environment for the new trees that much better.

Can someone with an ag backround point me in the right direction on this?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

There were articles published about the tress dying due to abuse long before Updyke came along.


Yep. Years ago. And actions were taken to make sure the Oaks lived several hundred more years and the oaks were not only NOT DYING, they were growing again.
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
14512 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Option 4: Design an artificial tree or sculpture to replace the current oaks as a permanent option.


Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33230 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
86987 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:16 pm to
Careful TnM. Remember what happened last time you went off on updyke.

quote:

Option 4: Design an artificial tree or sculpture to replace the current oaks as a permanent option.


Been saying this all year. Dew it Auburn
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
5096 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:17 pm to
Rolling trees....so middle school.
Oh well explains the barn's fan base.
Posted by lv2bowhntAU
God's Country,a.k.a N. Alabama
Member since Jan 2011
3340 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

There were articles published about the tress dying due to abuse long before Updyke came along.

So you're saying Updyke didn't hurt them with the Spike? Post less fricktard.
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 12:20 pm
Posted by bpfergu
Member since Jun 2011
3485 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:18 pm to
You should just make a 40-foot tall statue of Cam and stick it there. Shoot, I'd drive to Auburn to throw toilet paper at a giant Cam Newton statue.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
52868 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:18 pm to
quote:


Option 4: Design an artificial tree or sculpture to replace the current oaks as a permanent option.


quote:

Been saying this all year. Dew it Auburn


They should make an over-the-top Disney World type tree...build a treehouse that could be turned into a bar. We could all get drunk as frick and throw toilet paper out of the windows.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
39438 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 12:19 pm to
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Bama54



Look at this kid. steals his dad's computer and thinks he can post like a grown up. cute.
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