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Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:25 pm to gatordmb89
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I wouldn't give a penny again, until the entire administration had been fired.
I'd do the same, except some people would loose some teeth along the way
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:26 pm to WG_Dawg
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it's a date
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/hijack.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:26 pm to GeauxTigers580307
I think Paterno should be allowed to finish the season as coach and retire. There is no evidence that he did not report to the AD exactly what was reported to him. The AD and VP of finance are appropriately charged criminally and are where the real institutional failure occurred.
The standard everyone is using to call for Paterno's immediate resignation is that he "could have done more". If that standard was applied to everyone, no one would have a job. One can always do more.
Sandusky was a predator who preyed on children for likely 25 years or more. Everyone connected with his charity, second mile, was an enabler under this standard as they all could have done more. They financed a predator. Who investigated Sandusky, who monitored his activities, who approved of overnight visits by young boys to his home? Is he married? Does he live alone?
Don't we owe a guy who for 60 years has been the embodiment of intercollegiate athletics at least the courtesy of an explanation of what he was told by the administrators who he thought were handling this matter and who by law are designated to report matters to the authorities?
Sandusky had been reported to the police before this incident in 2002. How was he allowed unfettered access to these kids with no supervision? Paterno's role in the far reaching institutional failure here is so minimal compared to others that it is absurd to call for his immediate removal.
The standard everyone is using to call for Paterno's immediate resignation is that he "could have done more". If that standard was applied to everyone, no one would have a job. One can always do more.
Sandusky was a predator who preyed on children for likely 25 years or more. Everyone connected with his charity, second mile, was an enabler under this standard as they all could have done more. They financed a predator. Who investigated Sandusky, who monitored his activities, who approved of overnight visits by young boys to his home? Is he married? Does he live alone?
Don't we owe a guy who for 60 years has been the embodiment of intercollegiate athletics at least the courtesy of an explanation of what he was told by the administrators who he thought were handling this matter and who by law are designated to report matters to the authorities?
Sandusky had been reported to the police before this incident in 2002. How was he allowed unfettered access to these kids with no supervision? Paterno's role in the far reaching institutional failure here is so minimal compared to others that it is absurd to call for his immediate removal.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:31 pm to jddawg58
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There is no evidence that he did not report to the AD exactly what was reported to him. The AD and VP of finance are appropriately charged criminally and are where the real institutional failure occurred.
He should have done more. He knew exactly what happened in the showers that night. When he continued to see Sandusky at the PSU facilities, he should have inquired with the AD what the frick was going on.
Better yet, HE SHOULD HAVE CALLED THE POLICE AFTER HE TALKED TO THE GRADUATE ASSISTANT.
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he "could have done more". If that standard was applied to everyone, no one would have a job. One can always do more.
Are you saying that if you witnessed a child being raped, you wouldn't stop it or call the police?
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:35 pm to jddawg58
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jddawg58
Joe Paterno is Penn State. With out a doubt the most powerful man at the school if not the state. To give him a pass for doing the bare minimum is laughable.. It's his program, his long time assistant and his football facilities. If Paterno has wanted to pursue this matter it would have been. Instead they took away Sandusky's keys and asked him not to bring little boys to the facility.. Why would you ask him to do that if you didn't believe there was some deviant behavior going on? They basically told him to go molest little boys some place else.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:37 pm to The ChizMan Cometh
Uh...it did. 
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:37 pm to NATidefan
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Clean house, top to bottom president, AD,
Coach and on down to whoever knew enough about it to do ANYTHING about it. Let the players decide to stay or leave. Do whatever to help the victims, and start supporting programs against child molestation and educating people to be responsible and make a stand in these situations.
+1000
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:42 pm to jddawg58
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Don't we owe a guy who for 60 years has been the embodiment of intercollegiate athletics at least the courtesy of an explanation of what he was told by the administrators who he thought were handling this matter and who by law are designated to report matters to the authorities?
Nope. PSU fans, and the media don't owe him jack shite. He on the other hand, owes us a damn good reason as to why he didn't call the police and ban that fricker from PSU facilities.
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Sandusky had been reported to the police before this incident in 2002. How was he allowed unfettered access to these kids with no supervision?
Campus police (if I'm not mistaken) and the Detective was told to close the case. What does that tell you?
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:46 pm to jddawg58
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I think Paterno should be allowed to finish the season as coach and retire. There is no evidence that he did not report to the AD exactly what was reported to him. The AD and VP of finance are appropriately charged criminally and are where the real institutional failure occurred.
Paterno should be charged. He was told Sandusky was anally raping a 10 year old in their showers and didn't call police. No excuse for that. Paterno admitted to the Grand Jury he was told this by the Grad Assistant.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:49 pm to AUnite
Unreal how many people think telling the AD was the appropriate action upon learning someone was having anal intercourse with a 10 year old boy. WTF is this world coming to?
All morning on the radio, they are talking about this "sexual scandal". WTF with that too? It's child rape, and pedophilia.. why aren't people calling it for what it is?
All morning on the radio, they are talking about this "sexual scandal". WTF with that too? It's child rape, and pedophilia.. why aren't people calling it for what it is?
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:54 pm to Alahunter
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Unreal how many people think telling the AD was the appropriate action upon learning someone was having anal intercourse with a 10 year old boy. WTF is this world coming to?
I agree 100%. He should have called the police, before he called the AD. End of story.
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All morning on the radio, they are talking about this "sexual scandal". WTF with that too? It's child rape, and pedophilia.. why aren't people calling it for what it is?
I have no idea. All the articles I've read have said "sex scandal". Call a spade a fricking spade.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 2:57 pm to AUnite
Exactly. When you hear sexual scandal.. first thought is two adults. This is FAR from that. I heard the FEDS were about to start getting involved. I'm not sure the statute, but I hope everyone involved, from knowing and not reporting to authorities to lying about knowing are brought up on charges.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:00 pm to AUnite
People need to read the indictament! Paterno is a sorry excuse for a human, he freaking knew! Tired of all the excuse I'm hearing about wait it out, what did he know exactly, it was probably told to him in a different way. SMDH 10yr boy and 60 yr. old man shower alone!!!! HELLO!!! WTF else u need to hear.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:00 pm to Alahunter
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I'm not sure the statute
I actually looked that up earlier.
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"On August 27, 2002, the statute of limitations for child sexual abuse was extended to 12 years after the victim’s 18th birthday. (Before that amendment, the statute of limitations was 5 years after the victim’s 18th birthday)".
**I felt super creepy looking this up**
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:02 pm to AUnite
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**I felt super creepy looking this up**
**curious what other creepy things you do** lol
Interesting though. Every damn one of them should be charged with endangering the welfare of a child, at the very least.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:03 pm to AUnite
Paterno's testimony to the grand jury was that he was told by McCreary that Sandusky was fondling the boy or that something of a sexual nature occurred in the shower.
Now you are making Joepa the sheriff of PSU, up to him to eradicate all wrongdoing on campus.
Paterno didn't witness anything. He is responsible for results on the football field. The administrators are charged with responsibility of reporting suspected child abuse. He reported to them what GA reported to him. He didn't mislead, he didn't cover up,he discharged his duty to report, he relied on them to take appropriate action. Hardly seems like a firable offense.
Now you are making Joepa the sheriff of PSU, up to him to eradicate all wrongdoing on campus.
Paterno didn't witness anything. He is responsible for results on the football field. The administrators are charged with responsibility of reporting suspected child abuse. He reported to them what GA reported to him. He didn't mislead, he didn't cover up,he discharged his duty to report, he relied on them to take appropriate action. Hardly seems like a firable offense.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:04 pm to Alahunter
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**curious what other creepy things you do**
Nothing
I'm not a creepy person. It took me over in hour to read the Grand Jury Indictment. I kept getting nauseous and had to take breaks.
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Every damn one of them should be charged with endangering the welfare of a child
Yup, and they should all have to pay restitution to the victims. It's complete bullshite that he was able to continue doing this for as long as he did.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:06 pm to jddawg58
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he relied on them to take appropriate action.
and when they failed he should have done something.
Posted on 11/9/11 at 3:07 pm to jddawg58
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erno's testimony to the grand jury was that he was told by McCreary that Sandusky was fondling the boy or that something of a sexual nature occurred in the shower.
The Grad Assistant told him exactly what happened. Sandusky was having anal intercourse with a 10 year old. From that point, Joe Pa started fudging the story. He knew. He didn't call the police. NO EXCUSE for that.
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Paterno didn't witness anything. He is responsible for results on the football field. The administrators are charged with responsibility of reporting suspected child abuse. He reported to them what GA reported to him. He didn't mislead, he didn't cover up,he discharged his duty to report, he relied on them to take appropriate action. Hardly seems like a firable offense
A decent human being is all that is needed to report to police a suspicion of child abuse, much less child rape. He is a piece of trash and human filth to have not done this.
eta- not only should this have been a fireable offense, it's a criminal offense for enabling his friend to continue abusing children and not doing anything to stop it when it was more than reasonable for him to expect it to continue with the knowledge he gained by the Grad Assistant's disclosure to him.
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