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re: Les Miles and LSU: SECR opinion
Posted on 7/10/11 at 9:23 am to Brew Drees
Posted on 7/10/11 at 9:23 am to Brew Drees
I wonder what the perception of Miles would be right now had he gone 8-5 or 9-4 last year. 3 plays that SHOULD have been made would've resulted in 3 losses to mediocre teams.
-UNC dropped 2 passed in the end zone at end of game
-If UT wouldn't have substituted, game over
-The UF game, fluke fake FG should've never happened
I know these are all what if's, but he was within 3 plays that probably should've gone the other way of going 8-5.
Those 11 wins (that shouldn't have been) are what is making everyone expect 11 more this year, and the reason the hype is so big for LSU. Therefore, LSU won't live up to that hype this year, and people will go back to questioning Miles again.
I see 9-3 tops, 8-4 likely with 4 losses between these 6 teams (Oregon, WVU, MSU, Bama, Arkansas, UF)
-UNC dropped 2 passed in the end zone at end of game
-If UT wouldn't have substituted, game over
-The UF game, fluke fake FG should've never happened
I know these are all what if's, but he was within 3 plays that probably should've gone the other way of going 8-5.
Those 11 wins (that shouldn't have been) are what is making everyone expect 11 more this year, and the reason the hype is so big for LSU. Therefore, LSU won't live up to that hype this year, and people will go back to questioning Miles again.
I see 9-3 tops, 8-4 likely with 4 losses between these 6 teams (Oregon, WVU, MSU, Bama, Arkansas, UF)
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Posted on 7/10/11 at 9:34 am to TennisNole
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TennisNole
That's a great analysis
If The refs wouldn't have called PP out of bounds when both feet were clearly in bound, if fat boy Cody hadn't gotten a finger on the Tenn field goal, and didn't state or Ole miss have Alabama by 3 in the fourth quarter that year? See every team needs luck on their side. Don't come in here talking shite about our coach, when it took an LSU coach to get your program back on track. I mean Bowden was a legend, but he had all but wiped his arse and flushed the football program down the toilet.
We know you've had a couple of good recruiting classes over there, but dont talk shite about a head coach with a NC until yours wins one.
Posted on 7/10/11 at 9:43 am to TennisNole
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I see 9-3 tops, 8-4 likely
Posted on 7/10/11 at 9:43 am to TennisNole
Ok, if you want to play hypothetical
LSU pulled most of their starters early in that game and gave as many as 7 true freshman action. Mostly in the secondary. UNC shredded those young DB's that are now considered some of the nations best. Ridley fumbled twice and didn't fumble again all season. I guess you just left all that out and focused on the negative huh?
But they did, we played like shite though.
are you shitting me? Just because it was the first time you beat FL in who knows how long doesn't mean the rest of us have had that much trouble. LSU was in control of that game from start to finish. PP Fumbles a Punt giving them a short field and Debose takes a KO to the house. Brantly and their backs were ill-effective that game and I dare you to argue that game further. FL by no means was a fluke win nor did UF deserve to win.
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-UNC dropped 2 passed in the end zone at end of game
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-UNC dropped 2 passed in the end zone at end of game
LSU pulled most of their starters early in that game and gave as many as 7 true freshman action. Mostly in the secondary. UNC shredded those young DB's that are now considered some of the nations best. Ridley fumbled twice and didn't fumble again all season. I guess you just left all that out and focused on the negative huh?
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-If UT wouldn't have substituted, game over
But they did, we played like shite though.
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The UF game, fluke fake FG should've never happened
are you shitting me? Just because it was the first time you beat FL in who knows how long doesn't mean the rest of us have had that much trouble. LSU was in control of that game from start to finish. PP Fumbles a Punt giving them a short field and Debose takes a KO to the house. Brantly and their backs were ill-effective that game and I dare you to argue that game further. FL by no means was a fluke win nor did UF deserve to win.
This post was edited on 7/10/11 at 9:45 am
Posted on 7/10/11 at 2:04 pm to TennisNole
Since you're being hypothetical, we couldve just as easily:
Beaten AU and Arkansas and gone to the national championship
Beaten AU and Arkansas and gone to the national championship
Posted on 7/10/11 at 11:33 pm to TennisNole
Coach Miles is a good coach. I do not think he is an elite X&Os coach. However, he does many things right that he doesn't get a lot of credit for.
He hires good assistant coaches (with a few exceptions), and he takes care of those coaches. Even the ones that he gets rid of, he never really fires them. He helps them find other jobs first.
He recruits well. Again, I don't think that he is an elite recruiter because I don't think that he has the charisma (or ability to lie) like a Saban or Meyer to close the deal on some players. I think he is a better evaluator of character than talent. LSU's offseasons have been relatively quiet in terms of the arrests that you normally see at Oregon, Florida, Tennessee, etc.
He is loyal, sometimes to a fault. He has twice passed up "his dream job" of coaching at Michigan. He gave long time assistants chances to be co-defensive coordinators that put him on the hot seat. He kept Crowton around to long. He hasn't given up on JJ. And he used to appear to play seniors instead of more talented underclassman.
Most everyone agrees that Les Miles is a good man. Sometimes this can be a hindrance in the cutthroat business of college football, but I think overall, it helps him be as successful as he is.
He hires good assistant coaches (with a few exceptions), and he takes care of those coaches. Even the ones that he gets rid of, he never really fires them. He helps them find other jobs first.
He recruits well. Again, I don't think that he is an elite recruiter because I don't think that he has the charisma (or ability to lie) like a Saban or Meyer to close the deal on some players. I think he is a better evaluator of character than talent. LSU's offseasons have been relatively quiet in terms of the arrests that you normally see at Oregon, Florida, Tennessee, etc.
He is loyal, sometimes to a fault. He has twice passed up "his dream job" of coaching at Michigan. He gave long time assistants chances to be co-defensive coordinators that put him on the hot seat. He kept Crowton around to long. He hasn't given up on JJ. And he used to appear to play seniors instead of more talented underclassman.
Most everyone agrees that Les Miles is a good man. Sometimes this can be a hindrance in the cutthroat business of college football, but I think overall, it helps him be as successful as he is.
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