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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:20 pm
Strictly rumor at this point, let's see if it develops. Again, not confirmed. Only rumor.
Word is that HBO's Real Sports is in a "finding out" period regarding a story about cheating in the SEC. Not skirting the rules, not coloring outside the lines, not violating the letter of the law . . . flat-out, blatant, worse-its-ever been cheating.
Specifically: former Auburn defensive end Stanley McClover allegedly has admitted that he received cash payments to attend Auburn and that the payments continued during his four years on the Plains.
Former LSU recruit and Alabama player Chris Keys is also allegedly willing to appear on Real Sports saying he received the same benefits as McClover.
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Word is that HBO's Real Sports is in a "finding out" period regarding a story about cheating in the SEC. Not skirting the rules, not coloring outside the lines, not violating the letter of the law . . . flat-out, blatant, worse-its-ever been cheating.
Specifically: former Auburn defensive end Stanley McClover allegedly has admitted that he received cash payments to attend Auburn and that the payments continued during his four years on the Plains.
Former LSU recruit and Alabama player Chris Keys is also allegedly willing to appear on Real Sports saying he received the same benefits as McClover.
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This post was edited on 2/22/11 at 3:40 pm
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:22 pm to parkjas2001
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flat-out, blatant, worse-its-ever been cheating.
frick Yeah.
"If you ain't cheatin you ain't tryin."
Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:24 pm to parkjas2001
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There are other names and other schools involved, but the entire story is SEC-based. Also, because all of the players who (potentially) are going on the record have been gone for at least five years, apparently the NCAA can't open an investigation into any of the alleged improper benefits the players say they received.
Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:25 pm to parkjas2001
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There also could be a tape of Cecil Newton and Kenny Rogers that, if what Rogers is saying on it is true, could be very damaging to Mississippi State
Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:25 pm to parkjas2001
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Former LSU recruit and Alabama player Chris Keys is also allegedly willing to appear on Real Sports saying he received the same benefits as McClover
I wonder what the point of calling an ex-Bama player a former LSU recruit is? If he was good enough to play in at Bama he was probably recruited by 20 or 30 big time programs.
Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:26 pm to parkjas2001
10 pages
Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:27 pm to parkjas2001
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There also could be a tape of Cecil Newton and Kenny Rogers that, if what Rogers is saying on it is true, could be very damaging to Mississippi State. The story could come undone if Rogers decides to not appear, which at this point is still to be determined.
Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:28 pm to parkjas2001
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Good thing the 5 years is up.
The 5 year window can be expanded by the ncaa if a pattern of abuse is uncovered.
So don't think you are clear because the "statue of limitations" is up. This goes for anybody...
Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:30 pm to parkjas2001
Not saying AU or any other school has done anything wrong, but the NCAA SOLs are not concrete and they have exceptions built in:
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32.6.3 Statute of Limitations. Allegations included in a notice of allegations shall be limited to possible
violations occurring not earlier than four years before the date the notice of inquiry is forwarded to the institution
or the date the institution notifies (or, if earlier, should have notified) the enforcement staff of its inquiries into
the matter. However, the following shall not be subject to the four-year limitation: (Revised: 10/12/94, 4/24/03)
(a) Allegations involving violations affecting the eligibility of a current student-athlete;
(b) Allegations in a case in which information is developed to indicate a pattern of willful violations on the part
of the institution or individual involved, which began before but continued into the four-year period; and
(c) Allegations that indicate a blatant disregard for the Association’s fundamental recruiting, extra-benefit, academic
or ethical-conduct regulations or that involve an effort to conceal the occurrence of the violation. In
such cases, the enforcement staff shall have a one-year period after the date information concerning the matter
becomes available to the NCAA to investigate and submit to the institution a notice of allegations concerning
the matter.
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Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:36 pm to parkjas2001
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Chris Keys
This is where you lost me. Keys couldn't have had "the same benefits as McClover" b/c Chris only lettered one year (2005) and was later booted from the team (NOT something you do when a player has tons of dirt on you).
Keys and Ali Sharrief were supposedly a package deal. Keys lived with the Sharrief family. Ali and Chris were "like brothers" for a period of time, but once they got to Tuscaloosa there was a coming apart between the two - allegedly over Keys saying that Ali wouldn't have a scholarship if it werent for him (although, by that point Ali was playing some and Keys wasn't). Ali kicked his arse and broke Chris' leg (inb4medicalredshirtjokes).
Keys was recruited, signed, and played under Shula. This was also during a time when we had JUST been slammed by the NCAA. I doubt that what is being alleged about/by Keys is true. I am not saying we don't have our own dirt, but would be shocked if part of that dirt was Chris Keys.
Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:38 pm to parkjas2001
And The Plains Continue To Burn
Posted on 2/22/11 at 2:59 pm to parkjas2001
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There also could be a tape of Cecil Newton and Kenny Rogers that, if what Rogers is saying on it is true, could be very damaging to Mississippi State
This can't be true because MSU did it right.
Posted on 2/22/11 at 3:11 pm to parkjas2001
stanley 
dude was my favorite player when he was here. how could you
atleast he waited five years
but still....frick...isnt he from the hood? doesnt he know what snitches get?
dude was my favorite player when he was here. how could you
atleast he waited five years
but still....frick...isnt he from the hood? doesnt he know what snitches get?
Posted on 2/22/11 at 3:15 pm to parkjas2001
Posted on 2/22/11 at 3:20 pm to parkjas2001
Any Vols mentioned in that?
Posted on 2/22/11 at 3:51 pm to parkjas2001
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Former LSU recruit
That covers 4826547588346324264888574638 players.........
Posted on 2/22/11 at 4:17 pm to parkjas2001
People need to wake up and realize that the SEC is a major target for the national media. We're monopolizing the sport of college football and the media heads will do anything in their power to take the conference down.
I knew once the Cam Newton situation blew up, that it would be bad for the entire conference. Especially, when member institutions started playing whistle blower on one another.
This will likely be the first of a series of major PR attacks on the entire conference.
I knew once the Cam Newton situation blew up, that it would be bad for the entire conference. Especially, when member institutions started playing whistle blower on one another.
This will likely be the first of a series of major PR attacks on the entire conference.
Posted on 2/22/11 at 4:30 pm to parkjas2001
Can we rename this thread
"As the SEC burns"
"As the SEC burns"
Posted on 2/22/11 at 6:06 pm to parkjas2001
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Former LSU recruit and Alabama player Chris Keys
i remember this cat, talk about a frickup
Posted on 2/22/11 at 7:28 pm to parkjas2001
I didnt read the whole thread, but hasnt it come out that Santonio Holmes and other players have admitted to being paid? The only way this is a big deal is if the players are within the 5 year mark.
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