re: Auburn coaches are sickening

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If you want me to admit that he COULD have had pure intentions, then I'd like for you to admit that he could have had impure intentions.

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Staying within this scripture, Christian theme going on. Why should any of us decide on a message board what is in a man's heart? Judgment be mine sayeth the Lord.

Man is fallable and every person's actions and intentions can be defined in the same way. Like for instance what was your intention for starting this thread was it pure or impure reasons? Only you and God really know right?, and it is with him you must always answer too not some anonymous poster on a message board.


OK that is it for me on this subject I am out.

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Again, it depends on his motive.

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which you are aparently, initmately aware of what they are.

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If he is praying with recruits so they see him as a "role model" or a religious man that can be trusted, etc... then he's wrong.

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a subjective stance - almost like you wish it was this, just to justify your shaky position on this.

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If he's praying with recruits in an effort to pursuade the ones who are having to "pray about it" to join the family and come to Auburn - a religious University - then he's wrong.

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I can agree with this - however, again its your opinion that this is what he is doing...for which you do not know for sure.

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If he's doing it out of the goodness of his heart because he cares about the recruits - then he could have gone about doing it in numerous different ways that do not include going to Jordan Hare Stadium, and standing in the middle of all the recruits gathered around the Auburn logo.

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so whats the difference? on the Logo, in the parking lot, at Toomers Corners, what is the difference? I say there is no difference. first it was that he prayed with the recruits was the issue, now its the fact he did it on the logo? which is it?

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If you want me to admit that he COULD have had pure intentions, then I'd like for you to admit that he could have had impure intentions. There is a lot more evidence pointing to the latter than the former

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I can admit it is possible it went the way you suggest - there is always that possibility.

you havent show, however, any definite evidence to suggest that the Latter is it.

Fair enough.

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Link to this scripture please? Or at least tell me where it is in the bible and I'll look it up myself.

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Matthew 18:15-17

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If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

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Off Topic: Interesting at the end - not only does it say call the person out, but it says if they don't listen to anyone - to essetially cast them out of the church. Heavy hitting stuff.

Specifically, this is what you challenged me to provide a scripture reference for:

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if a Christian is acting in a manner that is unholy, then they should be called out for it. Judging their actions is perfectly fine, as long as it's warranted.

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So I did.

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Again, it depends on his motive.

If he is...

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If he's praying...

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If he's doing it out...

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Should you really be judging when you have that many "ifs"? God hates you right now.

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Matthew 18:15-17

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If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses. If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

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So, reading the above, I assume you and Trooper talked this over?

And then, considering Scripture (above), after he didn't heed your advice you and some friends and Trooper talked it over?

And then he ignored your advice again before you told it all to this here "church", right?

If not, you're going to hell, brother.

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superman
Auburn coaches are sickening
From a recent article on Auburn recruit Anthony Swain:

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"My highlight was Saturday night, going in the locker room and walking on the field," Swain said. "We stood in a circle around the 'AU' at the middle of the field. I just felt like this is where I need to be."

Then, Swain said, Auburn receivers coach Trooper Taylor led the recruits in a prayer, a moment Swain will never forget.

"It was, how should I say, a great spiritual experience," said Swain. "It was crazy. I felt blessed to be there."

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Maybe they will bring out the Jim Jones kool-aid on the next visit. People that use religion to further their agenda have a special place in hell. Auburn truly qualifies as a cult.