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Dick Vitale: Hypocrisy, baby, with a capital H

Posted on 1/18/11 at 1:10 pm
Posted by OneMoreVol
Houston, Texas
Member since Dec 2010
1872 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 1:10 pm
Why does Dick Vitale have such an agenda against anyone other than Roy Williams, Coach K, or Calipari? This discusses Vitale's verbal vomit that never seems to end about Bruce Pearl

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Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14440 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:08 pm to
U think Bruce tapped ole Dickie's trophy wife?
Posted by Bryant34
West Alabama
Member since Oct 2009
46 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:13 pm to
Vitale is a drag on college basketball. It would be WAY more popular without him as its spokesperson.

There are so many other, more reasonable, less stupid CBB commentators out there... I don't understand why they keep trotting out this blowhard. I won't watch a game he's calling, and I haven't for years.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:22 pm to
Gary Parrish says it the best.

Vitale genuinely believes, the people who are extremely friendly with him.

It's not that he's giving views to shape the basketball landscape for the benefit of his friends.

He's just a really naive person.
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:24 pm to
It does get old though. Bilas, Phelps, Vitale...They act like Pearl committed murder.

The two guys who do SEC basketball for the ESPN network, were talking during the Arkansa - UT game, and expressed the opinion that the media frenzy the Pearl situation has created has gotten way out of hand. Unfortunately, those guys don't write colums that are read nation wide every week.
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 2:44 pm
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
129138 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

Based on the headlines, you would have thought Williams committed major infractions for years and years. But he’s a man of integrity who made an honest and minor mistake.



Hey Roy,

Thank$ for $etting our program ba¢k 4 year$ during your day$ at Kan$a$.
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 2:35 pm
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

It does get old though. Bilas, Phelps, Vitale...They act like Pearl committed murder.

Amen Jed. Kentucky basketball will catch a break sometimes with the talking heads but generally any SEC indiscretion is blown well out of proportion.
Posted by gbunce
Chapel Hill, NC
Member since Dec 2010
276 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

Why does Dick Vitale have such an agenda against anyone other than Roy Williams, Coach K, or Calipari? This discusses Vitale's verbal vomit that never seems to end about Bruce Pearl


Mostly drools over K-rat.

We have a poster on Inside Carolina named Vster who sometimes parody posts Vitale after big games... Calls himself "dookie V". Pretty funny stuff usually... stuff like, "the Devils may have lost by fifteen, but Kyle Singler was more than AWESOME, he was IMMACULATE..."
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:45 pm to
Pearl is a great coach, but I don't see any legit argument for why he should not have been fired. He outright intentionally lied to the NCAA (a violation that benches an athlete for the rest of the year) and then tried to cover it up by telling parents not to talk to the NCAA about the fact they came to his house. You have to at least expect a little more out of your coach than you do the players.
Posted by tennfanatic
Greeneville, Tennessee
Member since Nov 2007
2094 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

but I don't see any legit argument for why he should not have been fired


I agree 100%! He should have been fired immediately. It sent the wrong message to keep him imo.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:57 pm to
There have been far worse NCAA infractions that didn't result in firings.

Pearl was docked 1.5 million, can't recruit off campus for a year, and was suspended from 8 SEC games.

The other thing is, in 99% of NCAA cases. None of us even know about the infraction until the LOI. Tennessee was proactive in punishing and releasing the details.

Unprecedented sanctions for this sort of case

I know the NCAA is going to hammer Pearl, I just think the magnitude of the infraction is blown out of proportion.

Especially when lying to the NCAA is such a regular occurance. Let's be honest here. You know it is. It's only that it's difficult to prove.

If Pearl had said, "I don't recall if Craft, McRae, and Selby attended that Party." He's off the hook.

Example - John Calipari told the NCAA. He didn't know Derrick Rose had someone else take his SAT. Even though he met with him a few weeks leading up to the exam, D Rose had already failed to score a qualifying score 3 times, and the SAT was administered in Detroit. WWW's home town.

This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 3:02 pm
Posted by OneMoreVol
Houston, Texas
Member since Dec 2010
1872 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

Pearl is a great coach, but I don't see any legit argument for why he should not have been fired.


Because he was hired to be a coach and is performing that duty well. Not sure his contract details being honest to the NCAA.
Posted by RFM
Member since Aug 2009
1062 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

Pearl was docked 1.5 million


LOL...he is still making millions, so you consider this a legitimate punishment?

Pay me $2 million per year, and then dock me $500k per year for the next 3 years, see if I care.

Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20957 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

Pearl is a great coach, but I don't see any legit argument for why he should not have been fired. He outright intentionally lied to the NCAA (a violation that benches an athlete for the rest of the year) and then tried to cover it up by telling parents not to talk to the NCAA about the fact they came to his house. You have to at least expect a little more out of your coach than you do the players.

There are a few reasons. One is if the issue turns out like O'Brien at Ohio State, where the school ended up being sued. I'd assume they would at least want to wait for the soon to come letter from the NCAA. Another possible reason is finding a replacement will be much easier after this season than right before it.

That being said, I think the biggest reason he wasn't immediately fired is because the person who needs to do it knows that firing Pearl means he'll be unemployed soon, too.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

The other thing is, in 99% of NCAA cases. None of us even know about the infraction until the LOI. Tennessee was proactive in punishing and releasing the details.


The NCAA knew he lied the minute he told the investigators no one came to his house. They already had the photographs. The NCAA knew before UT did any self reporting.

quote:

Especially when lying to the NCAA is such a regular occurance. Let's be honest here. You know it is. It's only that it's difficult to prove.


Which is the reason the NCAA has to punish it so strictly when they do catch someone lying. Because the NCAA lacks any real investigative power, it has to rely heavily on the truthfulness of testimony. The only way they can ensure honest answers is by using severe punishment when they can prove falsehood to deter others from risking it.

FWIW I hate Dick Vitale and actually liked Pearl a ton before the NCAA trouble. I wish Bama had hired him the minute he beat the shite out of Gottfried's 2 seed team in the first round of the tournament when he was at UW-Milwaukee.
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 7:57 pm
Posted by auburntiger77
Glendale
Member since Dec 2010
2044 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 8:10 pm to
Can the NCAA require Lie Detector test???? Seems like if every coach and every player had to take a Lie Detector test, you would stop most of the cheating...
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41181 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

Can the NCAA require Lie Detector test???? Seems like if every coach and every player had to take a Lie Detector test, you would stop most of the cheating...



Cheating wasn't the problem with Pearl, it was the lying.
Posted by hogfaninlafayette
Member since Dec 2010
215 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 8:13 pm to
no way should you keep a coach that embarassed your school like that. all this shows to anyone with half a brain is that tenn is more interested in winning than than teaching their kids about honesty and integrity. my gosh man!! he is the face of a very large part of your athletic program and you're ok with him doing this? makes you wonder what else is tennessee ok with their coaches doing? c'mon tenn, you should be ashamed
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

all this shows to anyone with half a brain is that tenn is more interested in winning than than teaching their kids about honesty and integrity


Posted by hogfaninlafayette
Member since Dec 2010
215 posts
Posted on 1/18/11 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

Cheating wasn't the problem with Pearl, it was the lying.



liars cheat and cheaters lie
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