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Why Doesn't Holtz Love Arky as much as Notre Dame and USCe?

Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:00 pm
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:00 pm
He always picks those two teams but I think he picks for/against the Hogs more rationally

Any reason?
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:01 pm to
He can't remember coaching at Arkansas.
Posted by hogfan349
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Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:01 pm to
S'Thour Grapeths
Posted by roody
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Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:03 pm to
broyles
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:04 pm to
Well if Arky fans are in IRL anything like they are on TD.com, then I can understand why he'd have no love for the program.
Posted by Derrick
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Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:04 pm to
I believe we fired him
Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:05 pm to
Holtz is Catholic and ND was his dream job. He was fired at Arkansas.
Posted by DiafGtfo
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Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:05 pm to
Him and Broyles hate each other.
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
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Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

broyles

Broyles, Defender of Arkansas Virtue, felt Holtz had to go after the coach said "Arkansas isn't the end of the world, but you can see it from here" on the Johnny Carson Show.

Forget the fact that Holtz was the most successful coach the Hogs ever had.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:08 pm to
Notre Dame and USCe have been more relevant (media wise for Notre Dame) in the past few years than Arkansas, and Arkansas didn't get any attention until after the USCe game.

If Arkansas continues to be relevant next year, then we'll see if Holtz jumps on that train.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52880 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:12 pm to
Wikipedia on Holtz's departure from Arky:

quote:

reports suggested it may have been due to controversy over his having taped two television advertisements from his coach's office endorsing the re-election of Jesse Helms as Senator from North Carolina.
Posted by roody
hoistin' for my ship
Member since Nov 2009
2052 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:15 pm to
there are lots of stories, but it boils down to broyles getting tired of him and finding reasons to run him off. same story as sutton/hatfield/nolan.
Posted by spiderpig
Fayetteville, NC
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

Broyles, Defender of Arkansas Virtue, felt Holtz had to go after the coach said "Arkansas isn't the end of the world, but you can see it from here" on the Johnny Carson Show.

Forget the fact that Holtz was the most successful coach the Hogs ever had


Unfortunately, Holtz needed to be fired at that point. He spent a lot more time being a celebrity than recruiting for about his last three seasons, and our talent level went down the crapper as a result. Hatfield was thus the perfect hire at that time -- a coach who was used to winning with inferior talent at Air Force.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:17 pm to
quote:

Notre Dame and USCe have been more relevant (media wise for Notre Dame) in the past few years than Arkansas, and Arkansas didn't get any attention until after the USCe game.



That's quite possibly the dumbest statement I have read in a long time. You either just have a blind dislike for Arkansas or don't know much about college football if you really believe what you said here.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52880 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:21 pm to
Hatfield was a pretty darn good coach. Won 10 games at Air Force. Won 10 games at Arky three times in six years. Won 10 games at Clemson. Had a winning record three times at Rice, which is no small accomplishment.
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
4167 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

there are lots of stories, but it boils down to broyles getting tired of him and finding reasons to run him off. same story as sutton/hatfield/nolan.

yep
This post was edited on 12/3/10 at 11:23 pm
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40907 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:23 pm to
quote:

there are lots of stories, but it boils down to broyles getting tired of him and finding reasons to run him off. same story as sutton/hatfield/nolan.

And yet not Nutt who was not even half the coach that any of the four them were.
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
4167 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

Hatfield was thus the perfect hire at that time -- a coach who was used to winning with inferior talent at Air Force.

Hatfield was picked over Jimmy Johnson who went on to unprecedented success at the U.

ahh what could have been
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20834 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

Hatfield was picked over Jimmy Johnson who went on to unprecedented success at the U.
Maybe the best football coach of all time if you look at a combination of his pro and college success.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40907 posts
Posted on 12/3/10 at 11:26 pm to
quote:

Nutt was picked over Tommy Tuberville who went on to success at Auburn.

ahh what could have been

Same story, different book.
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