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One Question About Auburn's 2010 Recruiting Class...
Posted on 11/19/10 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 11/19/10 at 10:48 pm
for Auburn fans without being accusatory. In Auburn's 2010 class they got the Number 1 recruits in the state of Arkansas (Michael Dyer), Louisiana (Trovon Reed), Mississippi (Shon Coleman) AND Cam Newton.
In the extremely territorial south that, my friends, is extremely impressive - almost unheard of.
Does that AT ALL sound odd to Auburn fans, or do they just explain it as players buying into a new coach, one who at the time had a creeer record of 13-24?
Just asking.
In the extremely territorial south that, my friends, is extremely impressive - almost unheard of.
Does that AT ALL sound odd to Auburn fans, or do they just explain it as players buying into a new coach, one who at the time had a creeer record of 13-24?
Just asking.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 10:50 pm to souldog
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Does that AT ALL sound odd to Auburn fans, or do they just explain it as players buying into a new coach, one who at the time had a creeer record of 13-24?
Just asking.
Not to mention, they just finished a really crappy season.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 10:51 pm to souldog
Add in, that it was under a coach whose previous stop was 5-19, and they were coming off an 8-5 year, having lost 5 of their last 8 games. And the vocal and public re-emergence of Pat Dye on campus and being in alot of press conferences with the coaching staff.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 10:55 pm to souldog
fwiw, coleman commited to us when he was a 2*...he was not the #1 player in mississippi until near signing day. also, all i see on here is that trovon was not the #1 player either and that arky fans didnt want dyer. sounds like a bunch of scrubs to me 

This post was edited on 11/19/10 at 10:57 pm
Posted on 11/19/10 at 10:55 pm to bona fide
Posted on 11/19/10 at 10:56 pm to souldog
I think you can attribute a lot of that success to Trooper. ALso, the fans have a great atmosphere there. And kids had a shot at immediate playing time. Hell, when I went to games there I partied my balls off and had a great time. If I couldn't have gone to LSU, them , Ole Miss, ALabama, and UGA would be the schools I would look at.
And, I credit them for marketing themselves to these kids. We can laugh at the Tiger prowl deal with the limo, but it got their name in papers and message boards. We talked abotu it on the recruiting board here. A lot. Great marketing and strategy (I think mostly due to Trooper regardless of how you feel about him). In fact, it should be the new standard for most programs that had down years with a new coaching staff. VERY impressive to say the least.
I also remember seeing it pouring down rain last year and their student section was dancing to some techno shite. pretty impressive considering a lot of recruits were at that game.
The fans bought into it and if you have the fans, who also happen to be as rabid as LSU/Bama fans, it's easy to pull those kinds of recruits.
It is pretty easy to pull kids away from Arky. Hell, there best players have all been pulled at one point. Even Frazier is leaving and Mallett left too.
Trovon Reed was in a tough place in life. Wanted out of LA.
Suspect? Yes. Hard to believe? No. In fact, everything just happened to fall their way last year. Good for them. Plus, you've got to remember that when you get a few top recruits to "buy" into your program, they help recruit others.
A lot of different factors. Plus, it's a big time program.
I don't put anythign into it. Once Trooper and staff got those kids to buy into what they were selling (everything above + Malhzahn), it was downhill from that point on.
And, I credit them for marketing themselves to these kids. We can laugh at the Tiger prowl deal with the limo, but it got their name in papers and message boards. We talked abotu it on the recruiting board here. A lot. Great marketing and strategy (I think mostly due to Trooper regardless of how you feel about him). In fact, it should be the new standard for most programs that had down years with a new coaching staff. VERY impressive to say the least.
I also remember seeing it pouring down rain last year and their student section was dancing to some techno shite. pretty impressive considering a lot of recruits were at that game.
The fans bought into it and if you have the fans, who also happen to be as rabid as LSU/Bama fans, it's easy to pull those kinds of recruits.
It is pretty easy to pull kids away from Arky. Hell, there best players have all been pulled at one point. Even Frazier is leaving and Mallett left too.
Trovon Reed was in a tough place in life. Wanted out of LA.
Suspect? Yes. Hard to believe? No. In fact, everything just happened to fall their way last year. Good for them. Plus, you've got to remember that when you get a few top recruits to "buy" into your program, they help recruit others.
A lot of different factors. Plus, it's a big time program.
I don't put anythign into it. Once Trooper and staff got those kids to buy into what they were selling (everything above + Malhzahn), it was downhill from that point on.
This post was edited on 11/19/10 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 11/19/10 at 10:57 pm to bona fide
Shon Coleman started as a 3 star recruit. Auburn was on him early before anyone else.
Dyer already had a relationship with Malzahn. He'd basically recruited him for years.
Trevon was a surprise to most Auburn fans. I really believe the kid just wanted to leave the state.
Newton was a surprise to everyone. Auburn had 4 qb's on its roster when he committed. Honestly don't know much about his recruitment (incert pay-for-play bs here).
Dyer already had a relationship with Malzahn. He'd basically recruited him for years.
Trevon was a surprise to most Auburn fans. I really believe the kid just wanted to leave the state.
Newton was a surprise to everyone. Auburn had 4 qb's on its roster when he committed. Honestly don't know much about his recruitment (incert pay-for-play bs here).
Posted on 11/19/10 at 10:57 pm to souldog
Auburn uses a lot of innovative and expensive recruiting methods.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:06 pm to Duckie
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In fact, it should be the new standard for most programs that had down years with a new coaching staff. VERY impressive to say the least.
Trooper was banned from recruiting for a month for violations. And rules were enacted because it wasn't on the up and up.
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Plus, it's a big time program
Their 2nd SEC title didn't come until 1983. They have 1 SEC title since 1989. It's a good program, dunno if it ranks as big time. If so, then Arkansas does too.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:08 pm to Alahunter
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Their 2nd SEC title didn't come until 1983. They have 1 SEC title since 1989. It's a good program, dunno if it ranks as big time. If so, then Arkansas does too.
For these recruits, it's big time. They weren't around in 1956. They don't know the history. They just know that they are on TV a lot, and they have a huge stadium.
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Trooper was banned from recruiting for a month for violations. And rules were enacted because it wasn't on the up and up.
And yes, not everything was by the book, but I wasn't referring to ncaa rule following ability. I'm talking about how effective he was at getting these kids in the program.
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Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:11 pm to Duckie
I said nothing about 1956. The fact remains, Auburn has never, in their history had such a class, and they had alot more going for them in the past than what they had to sell in this recruiting class. Again, there were already, immediate recruiting violations in how they conducted themselves. It's not that far a stretch to think there could have been more, considering their recruiting history.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:12 pm to Duckie
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I'm talking about how effective he was at getting these kids in the program
I think that's what everyone else is also talking about, specifically, the last two weeks.

Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:12 pm to Alahunter
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. It's not that far a stretch to think there could have been more, considering their recruiting history.
THat's why I said it was suspect. But my opinion is that they did a hell of a good job bringing those kids in.
And those kids don't know the history of these schools. They know stuff from 10 years ago. If that.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:13 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Shon Coleman started as a 3 star recruit. Auburn was on him early before anyone else.
Not true. Olive Branch's coach Samel used to coach at Lafayett High School which is the county school of Oxford. He got butthurt one year when Ole Miss did not offer one of his players and has been biased against Ole Miss since then. Ole Miss was trying hard to land him after 2 cotton bowl births just 40 min away didn't even set up a visit. No OB player in the past few years has given Ole Miss a look because of Samsel. This along with all these Auburn speculations of pay to play lines up perfectly.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 11:14 pm to Duckie
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And those kids don't know the history of these schools. They know stuff from 10 years ago. If that.
I'd be willing to bet, tradition rich programs sell their history as well as recent success. And again, Auburn had 1 SEC title in the last 20 yrs, I'm sure kids were somewhat aware of that.
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