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re: Do you have a problem w/ Boise St's Preseason #2 ranking? If Bama
Posted on 5/6/10 at 3:29 pm to NJReb
Posted on 5/6/10 at 3:29 pm to NJReb
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Put your money where your mouth is and put them on the schedule.....or stop complaining
I'm not really complaining, they're not a BCS team so technically they can't be in the national championship. And I'll be sure to call Hammy up and ask him to remove Nebraska and Oklahoma from our upcoming schedules so the boys can go play against a WAC team in Idaho.
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Posted on 5/6/10 at 3:32 pm to molsusports
I am actually a casual fan of Boise State. I even attended a couple of their games this past season. They are a solid team that works hard and executes to near perfection.
However, to give them such a high ranking is kinda ridiculous. They should at least be playing teams like Oregon, Oregon State, BYU, Utah, etc. There are plenty of good teams in MWC and PAC-10 that are accessible enough in geographical terms, but they aren't scheduling to their potential.
However, to give them such a high ranking is kinda ridiculous. They should at least be playing teams like Oregon, Oregon State, BYU, Utah, etc. There are plenty of good teams in MWC and PAC-10 that are accessible enough in geographical terms, but they aren't scheduling to their potential.
Posted on 5/6/10 at 3:33 pm to Tennessee Jed
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And I'll be sure to call Hammy up and ask him to remove Nebraska and Oklahoma from our upcoming schedules so the boys can go play against a WAC team in Idaho.
Well, that WAC team from Idaho did do a number on the Oklahoma you referred to, didn't they?
And trust me, if they are ranked #1 or #@ by season's end and don't get invited to the BCS championship game, Congress will intervene......Bank on it.....
Posted on 5/6/10 at 3:41 pm to UtahHawg
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but they aren't scheduling to their potential.
Like any other team that plays in a conference, they have only so many slots for OOC games.
They filled two of those with Oregon State and Virginia Tech....and I don't doubt that they tried to fill the others with BCS teams, as well.....
What more do you want them to do?
Posted on 5/6/10 at 3:41 pm to NJReb
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Well, that WAC team from Idaho did do a number on the Oklahoma you referred to, didn't they?
1 game. The problem people have is that they can win 1 game against a legitimate opponent and bitch and moan about how they should be able to sit at the big kids table, yet teams in BCS conferences have to play 4 or 5 games like that every year, and win them, to be afforded the same luxury. I read a good analogy for it a while back. Some guy said Boise gets to ride first class despite paying for coach.
Posted on 5/6/10 at 3:42 pm to NJReb
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They have earned the right at this point to being treated with the respect that a home-and-home would entail
No they haven't. Why wouuld they? Because they finish in the top 10 every year with that joke of a schedule? Color me unimpressed. As has been noted, look what's happened when they've actually manned up and left the confines of Boise. 48-13 beat down in Athens in 2005. 41-14 in Arkansas in 2002. 32-13 in Columbia in 2001. They don't deserve equal respect because they get up for 2 games a year when SEC schools have to get up for 9 or 10.
I won't have a single shred of respect for Boise until they adopt the Fresno State mentality- anywhere, anyone, anytime. Fresno doesn't care who it is, they'll go on the road. They don't win a ton, but they ain't scared. Boise is scared. Of course they won't ever change their ways because they don't need to, they're GUARANTEED a BCS bowl every year if they win their 1 hard game on the schedule.
Posted on 5/6/10 at 3:51 pm to WG_Dawg
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I won't have a single shred of respect for Boise until they adopt the Fresno State mentality- anywhere, anyone, anytime
They DO have that mentality. Have you even been listening?
Either offer to play them or stop bitching about their weak schedule....you can't have it both ways......
And those losses you cited in the early 2000's were before they started being ranked really high......
When I see evidence that 4 or 5 SEC schools have offered them home-and-homes but were turned down, then I will go along with you, but until I do, you don't have a case.......
I personally am so sick and tired of this holier-than-thou attitude from SEC fans that I could puke......most SEC schools play no more than 1 game per year against any good OOC teams and then they want to be given automatic berths in the NC game simply because they were the best team in their own conference.......
Posted on 5/6/10 at 3:56 pm to NJReb
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I personally am so sick and tired of this holier-than-thou attitude from SEC fans that I could puke
Aren't you supposed to be an Ole Miss fan
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most SEC schools play no more than 1 game per year against any good OOC teams and then they want to be given automatic berths in the NC game simply because they were the best team in their own conference
Maybe b/c our conference consistently has some of the best teams in the nation and has won 4 straight BCSNCs
Posted on 5/6/10 at 3:56 pm to NJReb
I bet you could have puked a lot last season with the Ole Miss OOC schedule.
Posted on 5/6/10 at 3:58 pm to BamaFan89
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Aren't you supposed to be an Ole Miss fan
The only thing SEC related he is a fan of is the USCe mascot.
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:01 pm to guy germaine
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I bet you could have puked a lot last season with the Ole Miss OOC schedule.
Yeah, most Ole Miss OOC schedules make me puke.
That said, we have had home-and-homes with Texas Tech, Missouri, and Wake Forest (when they were good) in recent years, we had a home-and-home with Arkansas every year for the decade before they joined the SEC, and we have future home-and-homes with Clemson, Georgia Tech, and Texas, so things are at least not as bad as they used to be.....
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:01 pm to Robot Santa
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The only thing SEC related he is a fan of is the USCe mascot.
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:04 pm to NJReb
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Either offer to play them or stop bitching
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And those losses you cited in the early 2000's
Georgia played them in 2005 and took them behind the woodshed.
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When I see evidence that 4 or 5 SEC schools have offered them home-and-homes but were turned down
Why should SEC teams do that? Our schedules are hard enough as it is with having to play anywhere from 3-5 ranked opponents a year just from in house.
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I personally am so sick and tired of this holier-than-thou attitude from SEC fans that I could puke
We're the best conference with the best teams. I mean we literally are the best. Winning breeds that attitude.
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most SEC schools play no more than 1 game per year against any good OOC teams and then they want to be given automatic berths in the NC game simply because they were the best team in their own conference
Wrong. As has been stated, most SEC schools schedule down OOC games because they have to play a Florida, LSU, Georgia, Bama, etc. every damn year guaranteed. Boise doesn't. Boise has NO IDEA what it's like to have to get amped for 10 or 11 out of 12 weeks. They would be in ruins if they had to play a real schedule. The reason a 1 loss SEC champ should most likely be in the NC is because they have proven it against the very best competition every single week, not because they beat a team ranked about 15th in week 1 and then ran through a high school slate weeks 2-12.
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:06 pm to Robot Santa
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Some guy said Boise gets to ride first class despite paying for coach.
Totally agree with that statement.
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:07 pm to DawgFARKer
More like:
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Boise gets to ride first class despite paying for the redeye Grayhound
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:09 pm to WG_Dawg
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Why should SEC teams do that? Our schedules are hard enough as it is with having to play anywhere from 3-5 ranked opponents a year just from in house.
You are contradicting yourself, aren't you? If they are really just an overrated sack of shite, like you are implying they are, then it should be no more difficult to beat them than it is to beat any other team from a second-tier conference.....and there should therefore be no reluctance to scheduling them....
Your reluctance, however, suggests that you believe they really are pretty good and you are afraid you might lose the game, especially on the road.....and if that is the case, it suggests that their ranking is deserved.....
Again, you can't have your cake and eat it, too......
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:19 pm to DawgFARKer
They won't be number one or two in the first BCS rankings regardless of what happens to Alabama.
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:20 pm to NJReb
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like you are implying they are,
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Your reluctance, however, suggests
You need to stop implying and guessing what I'm suggesting, because, once again, you are very wrong. I've never said Boise is a bad football team. They've shown that they're ok. My beef with them is that they are given a free pass to the BCS. I've also stated countless times why SEC teams don't need to schedule them just to prove a point. 3 of us already have and have dismissed them like a nosy fly on a summer day. What they need to do is play other big time opponents on their home field. They're conveniently not playing VT in Blacksburg. But playing 1 good team a year won't cut it, considering the rest of their schedule. They need to schedule 3 big timers, with at least 1 being at that person's field. They they will have a real life, legitimate hat in the ring for deserving a NC.
Also, if conference realignement does happen and they don't join a real conference, then it'll be painfully obvious that they're scared and don't want real competition.
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:21 pm to NJReb
Posted on 5/6/10 at 4:27 pm to NJReb
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Your reluctance, however, suggests that you believe they really are pretty good and you are afraid you might lose the game, especially on the road.....and if that is the case, it suggests that their ranking is deserved.....
Being pretty good and being good enough to run the table in the SEC or Big 12 or Big 10 are two completely different things. Hell, TCU and BYU and Utah all go play multiple legit opponents most years in non home and homes. Why do you think people are willing to play those teams and not Boise? They are for the most part just as good, and from a second tier conference. It has nothing to do with fear. Boise just wants to negotiate like they are Texas when they are well, Boise. BCS conference schools just aren't going to put up with being strong armed by some upstart who has only even been around for 15 years. They need us. We don't need them. Most of the "BCS buster" schools understand that. Boise isn't one of them.
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